Do you consider Calderon a top 10 point guard?

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Is Calderon top 10 and rising?

Yes
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No (I'm crazy)
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49%
 
Total votes: 202

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Do you consider Calderon a top 10 point guard? 

Post#1 » by Kosta » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:25 pm

Obvious guys I would put ahead of him.

1. Paul
2. Nash
3. Billups
4. Baron
5. Arenas
6. Deron
7. Kidd
8. Tony Parker

After these guys, can you honestly tell me Jose isn't as good as any other point in the league?

Numbers over his last 20 games (14 of them starts): 13.1 points, 9 assists, 4 boards, 1 steal, 1.4 T.O on 50/40/90 percentages.

Over 21 games as a starter this season, he's put up 14 points, 10 assists, 4 boards, 1 steal, near 50/40/90, 1.5 T.O.

Overall stats for the season, 21 starts, 16 games off the bench: 11.6 points, 8.3 assists, 3.2 boards, 50/40/90, 1.33 T.O. Best assist/T.O ratio in the league.

How good is this guy? Is he top 10 and rising?
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Post#2 » by Bobbcats » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:26 pm

You have to be a hater to keep him out of the top 10 now
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Post#3 » by Bballer2306 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:31 pm

In my opinion Tony Parker should not even be in the top 10.

Real Point Guards are meant to actually PASS the ball.
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Post#4 » by Kosta » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:32 pm

Bobbcats wrote:You have to be a hater to keep him out of the top 10 now


Pretty much, I dare anyone to make a case for any other point besides the ones I've already listed. You can't.
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Post#5 » by Kosta » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:34 pm

Hater alert, hater alert. We have 2 No's in the voting, care to share your reasoning?
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Post#6 » by Kosta » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:35 pm

Bballer2306 wrote:In my opinion Tony Parker should not even be in the top 10.

Real Point Guards are meant to actually PASS the ball.


Yeah, and he's somehow won 3 chips by not doing it. He must be good at something.
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Post#7 » by Hendrix » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:38 pm

His stats put him in th top 10 of PG's. He has a hard time breaking down defences though, and when good teams D up he has a hard time creating. His defence is really bad as well.

He's probably right there on the fringe with Miller, Ford, and Hinrich.
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Post#8 » by realfung » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:45 pm

I say Mike Bibby, Derek Fisher, Mo Williams, TJ Ford are all better than him
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Post#9 » by JurassicJake » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:05 pm

I love Calderon, but Mo Williams is on the same level if not better. He has more of a track record and is better defender.
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Post#10 » by Rasheeed!!! » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:09 pm

that 8 plus.....A Miller and Bibby (when his hand is fine) would round out my top 10......but he'd be close, with the likes of Raymond Felton, Mo Will, Tj Ford, Derek Fisher
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Post#11 » by IanJames » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:12 pm

I wouldn't trade Rajon Rondo straight up for Calderon
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Post#12 » by halfHAVOC » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:43 pm

This Season(real pg's):
1. Paul
2. Kidd
3. Nash
4. Williams
5. Billups
6. Davis
7. Ford
8. Stephon Marbury * LOL jp
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8. Jose Calderon
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Post#13 » by dalekjazz » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:02 pm

According to Hollinger Calderon is an all-star.
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Post#14 » by og15 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:37 pm

realfung wrote:I say Mike Bibby, Derek Fisher, Mo Williams, TJ Ford are all better than him

??? I know Derek Fisher can play his role in the Lakers offense, but since when did he even come close to being a Top 10 PG in the league, what's going on here?

I love Calderon, but Mo Williams is on the same level if not better. He has more of a track record and is better defender.

I agree that Mo Williams has somewhat more of a track record, but Mo Williams' defense is nothing to brag about.

Right now I'd say he is in the Top 10. Mo Williams is quite arguably a better player, better scorer, but Calderon is the better passer. You could also argue for Dre Miller, though with Calderon being a very nice passer, and a much better shooter than Dre, that's a toughy, but again, Dre can score more. In terms of then numbers he's put up this season, unless we're just starting from December (which makes no sense), I personally can't argue for Miller over Calderon.

I wouldn't trade Rajon Rondo straight up for Calderon

That's understandable, but it's not an argument for Rondo being either as good or better than Calderon by any means.
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Post#15 » by GJense4181 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:44 pm

1. Chris Paul
(1b) Allen Iverson
2. Jason Kidd
3. Steve Nash
4. Baron Davis
5. Deron Williams
6. Gilbert Arenas
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Tony Parker

Mo Williams, Andre Miller, healthy Jamaal Tinsley, TJ FORD (starts for...a reason?) are having similar or better seasons than Jose Calderon.
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Post#16 » by rdtx2005 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:59 pm

the poll answers are rigged...
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Post#17 » by damo[23] » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:00 pm

Whats the point off the poll if your just going to disregard any no's ? Seems like your pretty much decided on the outcome anyway, no matter what the poll says?

Its a yes from me anyway. I've thought of him as a good PG since last year when he seemed to do so well despite being a bench player.
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Post#18 » by KnicksH20 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:02 pm

No way. Not at ALL.

1. Steve Nash
2. Jason Kidd
3. Chris Paul
4. Allen Iverson
5. Baron Davis
6. Chauncey Billups
7. Gilbert Arenas
8. Tony Parker
9. Deron Williams
10. Mike Bibby

I'm sorry, Calderon isn't better than T.J. Ford even, who is 11th on the list IMO.
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Post#19 » by Polansky » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:35 pm

GJense4181 wrote:Mo Williams, Andre Miller, healthy Jamaal Tinsley, TJ FORD (starts for...a reason?) are having similar or better seasons than Jose Calderon.


Starting is overrated, the real question is who finishes the game
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Post#20 » by T.Duncan21 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:39 pm

Polansky wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Starting is overrated, the real question is who finishes the game
And T.J. Ford closes 95% of the games he's playing in.

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