ATL / ORL

tbhawksfan · Post #1 » by **tbhawksfan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:34 am

Zaza / Lue

for

Arroyo / 2008 first

Post #2 » by **VintaGe36** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:56 am

IMO Zaza and Lue are NOT worth a 2008 1st.

tbhawksfan · Post #3 » by **tbhawksfan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:05 am

Phx usually gives firsts away just to avoid the cost.

Let's see what they respond. Good teams don't value late firsts very much as they are usually at or over the cap. They'd rather keep their talent than develop young guaranteed players.

Post #4 » by **VintaGe36** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:07 am

tbhawksfan wrote:Phx usually gives firsts away just to avoid the cost.

Let's see what they respond. Good teams don't value late firsts very much as they are usually at or over the cap. They'd rather keep their talent than develop young guaranteed players.

This is Orlando, not the cost conscious Suns.

ORL currently has ALOT of owed salary, I doubt they not welcome a young rookie to groom who will be cheap, since hes a late pick.

tbhawksfan · Post #5 » by **tbhawksfan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:14 am

As a Hawksfan, I'm already in the trade firsts away for talent mode. Even our near future picks will be in the twenties and not very valuable to us.

Talent is much more important.

tbhawksfan · Post #6 » by **tbhawksfan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:17 am

I'd look to trade our picks in more trades (Chil, Marvin, Shelden, exps, picks).

Can't be afraid to trade. Just have to trade well.

Post #7 » by **VintaGe36** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:05 pm

Trading your first for Zaza isnt trading well if you ask me.

WarFan · Post #8 » by **WarFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:18 pm

tbhawksfan wrote:As a Hawksfan, I'm already in the trade firsts away for talent mode. Even our near future picks will be in the twenties and not very valuable to us.

Talent is much more important.

As of right now, Atlanta would have the 15th pick in the draft. Outside the lottery, the picks are ordered opposite of winning percentage, so even if Atl was the 5th seed in the East they'd still be about the 18th pick because all of the west playoff teams would probably have a better record.

corwin · Post #9 » by **corwin** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:28 pm

So basically Orlando swaps expiring contracts & gives up a 1st for the right to take Zaza off of your hands. Shouldn't the 1st be going in the other direction?

killbuckner · Post #10 » by **killbuckner** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:59 pm

tb-- you need to wake up about the value of Hawks players. Zaza has played terribly this season, he isn't worth close to a first round pick. Lue is nothing more than an expiring contract. Not only that but you give the Hawks the best player in the trade. This just isn't anywhere close to a fair trade.

MagicFan3 · Post #11 » by **MagicFan3** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:30 pm

The first is excessive, and we don't want Lue...

Cammo101 · Post #12 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:06 pm

I'll take Zaza for Arroyo, but no dice on the 1st.

ITK9 · Post #13 » by **ITK9** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:41 pm

lol...zaza for a first?LOL

Cammo101 · Post #14 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:39 pm

Iggy...Laker5 actually made that post about Bynum? Laker fans are the new Raptor fans.

DanTown8587 · Post #15 » by **DanTown8587** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:16 pm

I don't think Atlanta and Orlando are trading partners this year because of how close that division is. I am all for divisional trades, but if you trade in season, to a division rival that could mean the difference between the third seed and sixth, you have to wonder.

kookie_819 · Post #16 » by **kookie_819** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:28 pm

Yes, it's good to trade away late 1st round picks for talent, but Zaza and Lue isn't much talent...