Does Larry K Hate Charlie V?

[Whiteman]

Really. He makes one boneheaded play and he's out of the game for a huge stretch. Anyone else on the team makes a boneheaded defensive play and it seems like they get to stay in the game as long as they want. I realize that Charlie V isn't the brightest or most motivated player in the world but the guy certainly has talent. I think Larry K has a personal vendetta against this guy. Is it possible that Larry K just doesn't like him like he hated Patterson? Also is it possible that what Larry K said at the start of the season, "If you don't play defense, you're not going to play." Was really aimed at only Charlie V? Because it sure seems that way so far. Or am I just a moron who knows nothing about the game of basketball?

False dichotomy


Seriousy though, CBQ has already said pretty much everything there is to say about this. From what I've seen so far (and I usually don't watch losses) CV has been pretty useful on offense. But he has to bring more on offense than he gives up on D, otherwise he sits.

[rocket_zoom]

Well it just seems weird to me that Charlie V gets punished a lot for his defensive play but no one else does. I know Charlie V is not a star or anything and I myself want him traded but it seems like he's the only one held accountable for stuff on the court.

With the crappy defense the Bucks already have, you think LK should make it even crappier by putting CV on more?

Don't forget the starting lineup has Redd and Mo, who are capable of scoring. It makes alot of sense to play a better defensive player player when Redd and Mo are on the court.

BTW, for those fans who haven't figured it out, think a little about why Popovich starts Bruce Bowen over Ginoblli, and why the Spurs go with that starting lineup.

The Rockets do the same thing by starting Chuck Hayes, who has no offensive abilities whatsover.

[okanoho]

he doesn't hate him
he just want to trade him

[buckybadgerfan]

Larry K made it known that starting was overrated and at times he has followed thru on this comment. Even though Yi is our starter, LK sat out Yi just as much as he sat out CV in games.
Both are inconsistent and it's easy to defend both players because neither are getting enough playing time to allow them to succeed.

It's just that Yi is bigger, faster, more athletic and WILLING TO LEARN/ADJUST. He's a rookie....easier to teach. CV seems to have a more complacent attitude that doesn't help him here.

CV has a decent game...As a shooting big. He is willing to do things necessary for the Bucks to win*...AT TIMES. In fact he is still making foolish turnovers at the end of games which doesnt bode well for him.

Most of you forget that Yi did win the starting position based on preseason play/practice to begin the season.
Give CV the starting spot and I bet he'd lose it again.

IMO Bucks are losing and you just want someone to blame. Don't be delusional, CV is NOT the answer.

[buckybadgerfan]

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Forgive him he struggles to read.
I think it's his Attention Deficit Disorder.

[rocket_zoom]

It's just that Yi is bigger, faster, more athletic and WILLING TO LEARN/ADJUST. He's a rookie....easier to teach. CV seems to have a more complacent attitude that doesn't help him here.

Yi is not bigger than CV, lol. And CV's biggest advantage over Yi is CV's inside game. In fact, if CV learned to not shoot outside of 15 ft of the basket, and made sure 90% of his shots are drives towards the basket, he would be that much better. As bad as CV is at everything else and as slow as he is, CV drives very well to the basket.

Unfortunately, I agree with you about all of CV's other deficits. And Yi's outside shot is much better and more consistent than CV's.

Yi needs to learn a few more post moves, bulk up more, and learn to draw fouls better when driving. Right now, that is one of Yi's weakest area - driving through opponents towards the basket.

[Sigra]

Krystkowiak is obsesed with defense and that's why he DOES hate CV. That is mistake by Larry because CV's bad defense hurt us only in few games. His offense would help us in much more games. But Larry is stuborn and generaly bad coach. He is still young so maybe he improves his coaching

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

It is not just that, Charlie is a sorry player. He just does not look like an NBA player. Or thinks like one.

I've seen better players in the D-League.

He does not play to his strengths, he has horrible body language and can not make simple plays. He is always out of place on defense.

Talent is not enough. You have to reach your potential and play hard every night.

I would rather take a chance on Gerald Green who is a guy rumored to come here in a Villanueva deal.

[floppymoose]

Among the players on the team who get regular minutes, CV has the worst +-. When you make a sorry Bucks team almost 8 points worse a game, you suck. That's Eddy Curry kind of suck. That's the simple reason CV is "hated" by the staff.

[buckybadgerfan]

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Yi is not bigger than CV, lol. And CV's biggest advantage over Yi is CV's inside game. In fact, if CV learned to not shoot outside of 15 ft of the basket, and made sure 90% of his shots are drives towards the basket, he would be that much better. As bad as CV is at everything else and as slow as he is, CV drives very well to the basket.

Unfortunately, I agree with you about all of CV's other deficits. And Yi's outside shot is much better and more consistent than CV's.

Yi needs to learn a few more post moves, bulk up more, and learn to draw fouls better when driving. Right now, that is one of Yi's weakest area - driving through opponents towards the basket.

LOL. A little misinformed are you? And you follow the Bucks?

Yi is actually 7-feet tall without shoes-->yep, taller but not heavier than Bogut.
CV is listed as 6'10". He's lucky if he's that tall, really. I'm sure in your mind he's bigger and more talented than Yi though.

[th87]

Both CV and Yi have strengths and weaknesses.

It is up to the coaching staff to maximize a player's strengths, while minimizing their weaknesses. Not by forcing a player into a cookie-cutter player prototype.

Why not do something to put CV in a position to be successful? Start running when he's in? Something?

[europa]

Among the players on the team who get regular minutes, CV has the worst +-. When you make a sorry Bucks team almost 8 points worse a game, you suck. That's Eddy Curry kind of suck. That's the simple reason CV is "hated" by the staff.

I think last night's game provided a good example for why Villanueva would frustrate any head coach. In the first half, he was shooting lights out but his defense was so incredibly awful he was making Boris Diaw look like an All-Star. Krystkowiak stuck with him for the offense. In the second half, Villanueva was just bad and didn't get crunch time minutes which was the right call since he didn't deserve any.

But that's Villanueva in a nutshell - every once in awhile he'll have a good offensive showing but the one thing he does consistently night in and night out is play some of the worst defense in the entire league. I don't think there's any head coach in the league that would care for it and on a bad defensive team he just makes things worse.