Magic @ Jazz

Post #481 » by **FFBlitzace** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:41 am

Except that doesn't necessarily indicate anything at all. But anyway.

whocares · Post #482 » by **whocares** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:10 am

LjJazzman wrote:Utah 32 fouls
Orlando 32 fouls

Doesn't that just make you sick how one sided it was? Not to mention 5 of them were intentional at the end of the game...

1. in this specific game, the refs seemed to pick on certain players.
2. hedo was being hacked at the beginning of the game but was getting no calls.
3. at the other end, he got called for all ticky-tacky, touch-me, feel-me fouls
4. for the jazz, boozer was tagged.
5. but, in all honesty, it was a poorly refereed game on both sides.
6. it was just not simultaneous.
7. during one period of the game, the magic were having it the zebra way.
8. during another period, it was the jazz' turn.

cedric76 · Post #483 » by **cedric76** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:51 am

sorry guys couldn't see the game last night

how did cook look ?

Post #484 » by **damo[23]** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:13 pm

Despite being a positive guy on these boards ... I find it so hard to stay positive.

This year we dont have injuries to blame.

Duiz · Post #485 » by **Duiz** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:16 pm

But I think what your team lacks is more role players, like we have Andrei Kirilenko.

Very nice game, and very nice streak by Dwight. Might have gone down to the wire if Hedo didn't have an invisible night.

Post #486 » by **Devin 1L** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:07 pm

karizma87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

just curious, what's hedo's average when rashard and dwight score 20+, and also the other way around? and also why you haven't posted this along with your stats...

I don't know, and I'm just about to run out the door so I don't have time to look right now. I'll look later.

And I didn't post it along with the others, because no one made any false claims about it.

He just made something up, and I showed the numbers that prove otherwise.

Post #487 » by **craig01** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:03 pm

Tough loss.

Better days are ahead.

Home cooking will get the Magic in sync.

The schedule has been more than a grind with a miserable lack of balance.

taruky1 · Post #488 » by **taruky1** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:09 pm

LjJazzman wrote:Utah 32 fouls
Orlando 32 fouls

Doesn't that just make you sick how one sided it was? Not to mention 5 of them were intentional at the end of the game...

Problem is that Dwight was the only guy getting any calls for Orlando. Hedo was absolutely raped by the refs last night. 1st quarter he's driving to the bucket and if the ref couldn't see the slap on the arm you would think the high decibel sound it produced might have helped. Korver bumped him on a running jumper, no call. On the defensive end the refs took delight in picking on him; some ridiculous calls, especially the "foul" on a Boozer shot.

TooNice00 · Post #489 » by **TooNice00** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:16 pm

Raven wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You wanted Hedo;s role reduced and it's obviously reduced , you wanted him
to take less shots and even Fooling took more shots
Rashard 20
Dwight 13
Fooling 11
Evans 10
Hedo 10

He got more rebounds and assists than the guy you have mancrush on , Rashard the Jack of threes and yet you manage to blame Hedo for the loss and you still want him gone.

You know what you are , you are just a pathetic hater and full of ****.

i like hedo but he doesn't work on this team. playing rashard and hedo together makes us bad defensively. we lose games because we can't control the paint when howard has to guard someone like boozer, yao, or whoever. maybe if rashard and hedo were actually good defensive players it would work, but both of them pretty much have a horrible defensive reputation. secondly on offense i want his role reduced to being a 6th man eventually when we get a PF? but i am not sure how that is gonna work with rashard still playing SF and getting big minutes. and lets face it hedo isn't an efficient offensive player by any means and nor has he been his entire career. rashard isn't exactly all that efficient either. neither of them go to the free throw line very much. i just see having to small forwards as a disadvantage and wasteful. we could use someone with hedos talent at another position not with one of our players who makes 118 million.

MagicalMan · Post #490 » by **MagicalMan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:24 pm

damo[23] wrote:Despite being a positive guy on these boards ... I find it so hard to stay positive.

This year we dont have injuries to blame.

Well Battie is a starter who can grab boards, hit the 18ft jumper, and play solid defense at his position. All of which would help the team out tremendously.

cedric76 · Post #491 » by **cedric76** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:29 pm

2008-2009 is gonna be the year

xstockholmsyndromex · Post #492 » by **xstockholmsyndromex** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:20 pm

Lets see:

Personal fouls:
Orlando: 32
Utah: 32

Foul Shots Att.:
Orlando: 41
Utah: 42

Looks like a HUGE disparity. I watched the game, and I'll agree that there were some missed call and BS calls against Orlando, but there were some missed calls and some BS calls against Utah as well.

You guys have a great team, that gave the Jazz a good game last night....but dont cheapen your team by putting the blame on the refs. Trust me, Ive seen worse. When you play a team and they get 42 FT's compared to your 22 FT's, then there is something to complain about, but last night the refs sucked on both sides of the ball.

Best of luck to you guys, Im hoping you tear it up in the East!

whocares · Post #493 » by **whocares** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:52 pm

TooNice00 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

i dislike hedo and he doesn't work on this team. playing rashard and hedo together makes us bad defensively. we lose games because we can't control the paint when howard has to guard someone like boozer, yao, or whoever. maybe if rashard and hedo were actually good defensive players it would work, but both of them pretty much have a horrible defensive reputation. secondly on offense i want his role reduced to being a 6th man eventually when we get a PF? but i am not sure how that is gonna work with rashard still playing SF and getting big minutes. and lets face it hedo isn't an efficient offensive player by any means and nor has he been his entire career. rashard isn't exactly all that efficient either. neither of them go to the free throw line very much. i just see having to small forwards as a disadvantage and wasteful. we could use someone with hedos talent at another position not with one of our players who makes 118 million.

1. fixed.
2. unveiled.

TooNice00 · Post #494 » by **TooNice00** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:10 pm

whocares wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

1. fixed.
2. unveiled.

just bc i don't think hedo fits well on this team for defensive purposes doesn't mean i dislike him as a player nor does it make me a hater.

ColdBlue · Post #495 » by **ColdBlue** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:26 pm

I thought Jazz fans were a bunch of whiny a**es. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

I agree the refs were horrible and inconsistent, but damn do you guys need a crutch to lean on that bad?

You have a great team. You need a couple guys to step up, and you will go far in the east.

TooNice00 · Post #496 » by **TooNice00** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:29 pm

if we played defense the so called "refs biased" against the magic wouldn't matter

karizma87 · Post #497 » by **karizma87** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:05 pm

whocares wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

1. fixed.
2. unveiled.

yea he's just a 2-faced hater, let him be. this guy said hedo takes away dwights shots, doesn't go to the line, and should be a 6th man after all he's done as a starter. whether he likes it or not, hedo is our best offensive option outside of the paint, and he and rashard complement each other just fine. it's just hedo makes dumb decisions and shard disappears in the clutch.

TooNice00 · Post #498 » by **TooNice00** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:22 pm

karizma87 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

yea he's just a 2-faced hater, let him be. this guy said hedo takes away dwights shots, doesn't go to the line, and should be a 6th man after all he's done as a starter. whether he likes it or not, hedo is our best offensive option outside of the paint, and he and rashard complement each other just fine. it's just hedo makes dumb decisions and shard disappears in the clutch.

i really want you to explain how i am 2 faced?

TooNice00 · Post #499 » by **TooNice00** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:35 pm

a rashard and hedo frontline will most likely continue to get abused on a regular basis, thats why i want hedo as a 6th man. but are there minutes for him being a 6th man? thats the question and why i don't see him fit for this team sometimes. i guess it makes me two faced because i actually want hedo to make his shots. i don't want hedo shooting 3-15 b/c that doesn't give us a good chance to win games. maybe hedo and rashard will get their act together on defense and i will be just fine with rashard and hedo in the frontline together, but until then i have a problem with it.

Scatocephalus · Post #500 » by **Scatocephalus** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:12 pm

ColdBlue wrote:I thought Jazz fans were a bunch of whiny a**es. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

I agree the refs were horrible and inconsistent, but damn do you guys need a crutch to lean on that bad?

You have a great team. You need a couple guys to step up, and you will go far in the east.

Looking at the box score both teams have 32 personal fouls. If you take into account that the Magic were intentionally fouling at the end of the game that would mean they had even less fouls than the Jazz.

Why are you guys whining??