I still don't think many of you understand how important that draft was. You don't always end up with the #1 pick. That move had the potential to push this team closer to contender status...or set this team in middle ground limbo/back for years.
When you have a pick like that, you have to consider all options and be 100 percent dead sure of what you're gonna get, or else you're going to be burned. When B.C says give Bargnani 5 years..do some of you honestly believe that Bryan Colangelo believes in his heart that Andrea is going to be on the level of a Roy, Aldridge, Gay? It's called saving face people..stop being naive. You can say thnat the draft was weak, but that's nothing but a weak excuse. There are still going to be 4 (depending on T Thomas, who I still believe will be a defensive/rebounding force in this league) impact players. Why didn't we end up with one of them?
As I sit here watching this team in over-time, I can't help but shake my head at the fact that Bargnani is stuck on the bench..rotting.
Start looking at the real reasons for why Bargnani was drafted. Why wias Gherardini brought in months before the draft? It was OBVIOUS that B.C had his mind set on taking Bargnani months in advance. He even tried trading down so the pick would look more justified (and act as insurance incase Bargnani ended up playing the way he is right now).
Andrea Bargnani when it's all said and done is going to fall in the Kwame Brown, Kandi Man category when it comes to first overall picks. I think he'll end up being a useful player and obviously much better than the Kandi man..but as far as 1st overall picks, that's where he will stand. Some of you are going to be inclined to ask me why I didn't bold Bogut. Let's not kid ourselves, Bogut is a solid rebounder, who defends and can score inside.
2006 Andrea Bargnani Toronto Italy
2005 Andrew Bogut Milwaukee Utah
2004 Dwight Howard Orlando SW Atlanta Christian Academy (GA
2003 LeBron James Cleveland St. Vincent-St. Mary HS (OH)
2002 Yao Ming Houston China
2001 Kwame Brown Washington Glynn Academy
2000 Kenyon Martin New Jersey Nets Cincinnati
1999 Elton Brand Chicago Bulls Duke
1998 Michael Olowokandi Los Angeles Clippers Pacific (Cal.)
1997 Tim Duncan San Antonio Wake Forest
1996 Allen Iverson Philadelphia Georgetown
1995 Joe Smith Golden State Maryland
1994 Glenn Robinson Milwaukee Purdue
1993 Chris Webber Orlando Michigan
1992 Shaquille O'Neal Orlando Louisiana State
1991 Larry Johnson Charlotte Nevada-Las Vegas
1990 Derrick Coleman New Jersey Syracuse
When will you realize the importance of the 06 draft?
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Just now on CBC, postgame on court:
Elliot Friedman: "Brandon Roy is a great young player like yourself.Chris, what are you going to have to do in the future to stop a guy like Brandon Roy"
Chris Bosh: "You're just going to have to hope he has a bad game"
I wonder how he's feeling about Andrea Bargnani right now. How do you think he felt while Alrdige was guarding him well early in OT, and battling for boards. Hell I wonder how Sam feels. I feel bad for Sam, he's left in a predicament when it comes to Bargs.
Elliot Friedman: "Brandon Roy is a great young player like yourself.Chris, what are you going to have to do in the future to stop a guy like Brandon Roy"
Chris Bosh: "You're just going to have to hope he has a bad game"
I wonder how he's feeling about Andrea Bargnani right now. How do you think he felt while Alrdige was guarding him well early in OT, and battling for boards. Hell I wonder how Sam feels. I feel bad for Sam, he's left in a predicament when it comes to Bargs.
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it's only 7 games into the season, but Bogut is putting up 17-10-3 and 1 block per game on 60% shooting. furthermore, throughout the season, he has shown steps of really improving in many facets of his game. i don't think we should keep on making it a point to others that Bogut will not be considered a #1 bust--such reservations should be kept for Bargnani, whose increasing ineptitude continues to impress me more and more as each game goes by.
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Meursault wrote:it's only 7 games into the season, but Bogut is putting up 17-10-3 and 1 block per game on 60% shooting. furthermore, throughout the season, he has shown steps of really improving in many facets of his game. i don't think we should keep on making it a point to others that Bogut will not be considered a #1 bust--such reservations should be kept for Bargnani, whose increasing ineptitude continues to impress me more and more as each game goes by.
Good point. Bogut's looked much better in his third season.
Also, if you think Bulls fans are feeling confident or comfortable with Tyrus Thomas, you're deluding yourself.
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Harry Palmer wrote:If they were Sicilians, ok, I'd get it.
(JOKE, Sicilians.)
Hilarious.
It's certainly discouraging to see Bargs on the bench and guys that were drafted above him playing great.
But we've got to just be patient and let Bargnani improve on his own time. These comparison threads are just torture. I'm glad we're done playing the Trail Blazers for the year.
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Taiyab_K wrote:Andrea Bargnani when it's all said and done is going to fall in the Kwame Brown, Kandi Man category when it comes to first overall picks.
Riiiiight.
Keep telling yourself that to feel better. How do you think Clippers fans felt in Kandi Man's second season? You think they were just throwing there hands up saying "oh he's a bust". Hell no, people still believed and rightfully so. I remember Leo raving about the Kandi man, well into his 3rd, even 4th season in the league.
Hell people still thought he would live up to his potential when he joined the Timber Wolves in 03! The last season he has with the Clippers was pretty impressive, almost a double double at 13/9.
People still believed Kwame would live up to his potential as well..Caron Butler anyone? Hell I did as well! I thought Kwame would blow up in LA and finally become the player you know he could be.
It's time to start waking up to reality.
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d00d, relax.
Premature talent evaluation, and long-term outlook by someone like yourself who's shown no real, groundbreaking insight from a basketball perspective is useless.
Compounded with the fact that almost regardless of the #1 picks' current play, his high draft status will almost surely carry significant trade value around the league a la Kwame Brown turning into Caron Butler.
Premature talent evaluation, and long-term outlook by someone like yourself who's shown no real, groundbreaking insight from a basketball perspective is useless.
Compounded with the fact that almost regardless of the #1 picks' current play, his high draft status will almost surely carry significant trade value around the league a la Kwame Brown turning into Caron Butler.
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I agree that the 06 draft was our chance to either take the path of a contender or a treadmill team.
I disagree that Bargnani will amount to nothing more than a Olowakandi or Brown level player. I still feel that he can be an 18 PPG scorer provided he improves his weaknesses. He's gotta stay out of foul trouble, learn to direct a defense, and become a better rebounder.
In general however, I think it's obvious that Bargnani was not the right pick for this team, that much is clear. Gay or Roy should have been the pick, followed by Aldridge and then Bargnani or Thomas.
But hindsight is always 20/20. It's going to be how BC recovers from this mistake. He will have to make solid moves to push this team's path upwards, which he just happens to be good at.
I disagree that Bargnani will amount to nothing more than a Olowakandi or Brown level player. I still feel that he can be an 18 PPG scorer provided he improves his weaknesses. He's gotta stay out of foul trouble, learn to direct a defense, and become a better rebounder.
In general however, I think it's obvious that Bargnani was not the right pick for this team, that much is clear. Gay or Roy should have been the pick, followed by Aldridge and then Bargnani or Thomas.
But hindsight is always 20/20. It's going to be how BC recovers from this mistake. He will have to make solid moves to push this team's path upwards, which he just happens to be good at.
