+Swap guys in need of a change of scenery--->Denver/Chica

yunggunz · Post #1 » by **yunggunz** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:50 am

Chicago Bulls

Incoming Players

Von Wafer
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.1 REB: 0.4 AST: 0.3 PER: -0.87

Steven Hunter
Salary: $3,638,600 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 0.8 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.0 PER: 3.04

J.R. Smith
Salary: $2,134,067 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.7 REB: 1.9 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.07

Outgoing Players: Thabo Sefolosha, Adrian Griffin, Joakim Noah
Denver Nuggets

Incoming Players

Thabo Sefolosha
Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.6 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.9 PER: 5.73

Adrian Griffin
Salary: $1,593,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 1.5 REB: 1.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 10.84

Joakim Noah
Salary: $2,135,400 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.2 REB: 3.1 AST: 0.9 PER: 17.68

Outgoing Players: Von Wafer, Steven Hunter, J.R. Smith

Post #2 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:08 am

There's a reason we gave JR Smith to you guys. We're not about to take him back.

And including Noah? You've got to be kidding me, right?

Post #3 » by **VintaGe36** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:12 am

Do you honestly believe that this deal is fair for CHI?

yunggunz · Post #4 » by **yunggunz** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:17 am

VintaGe36 wrote:Do you honestly believe that this deal is fair for CHI?

I think JR for Thabo favors chicago and Wafer for Griffin favors chicago. Obviously hunter for noah favors denver, i just wasnt sure by how much.

Post #5 » by **VintaGe36** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:20 am

Injuried Rotation Big, or a former lotto pick rookie......hmmmm thats hard.

Wafer favors Griffin?

In the same way, the 35th pick favors the 33rd pick, its down right a wash.

They DONT want JR, did you forget they basically gave him to you?

For them Thabo > JR.

Noah can command MUCH more than an injuried big, a raw swingman and a guy that isn't wanted.

yunggunz · Post #6 » by **yunggunz** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:30 am

VintaGe36 wrote:
Wafer favors Griffin?

Any expiring favors Griffin in all honesty. And in the summer league it was pretty clear that Wafer is on the same level (and just as young) as just about any non-lotto pick coming out of the draft. If this was Daequan Cook you would be singing a different tune, but Daequan Cook wouldnt be putting up seeing any burn in denver either.

They DONT want JR, did you forget they basically gave him to you?

They gave him to us because of Skiles, who is now gone. JR gives them legit size at the 2 spot, a guy that takes it hard to the hole and can hit the 3.

Post #7 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:51 am

With Ben Wallace pretty much ineffective and Tyrus Thomas not exactly showing that he's deserving of his draft position and the Bull already thin up front I really can't see that they can afford to deal Noah...at least not in a package where they don't get a big back.

BR0D1E86 · Post #8 » by **BR0D1E86** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:53 am

Did you honestly think the Bulls might do this?

Post #9 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:57 am

What I have a problem understanding is why all this "add another perimeter player to the Bulls" appears to be building up so much steam. The Bulls DO NOT need another perimeter player unless it's Reggie Miller in his prime. If the reason is because the Bulls current set of perimeter players are struggling, perhaps it's because they lack any post presence and teams can afford to smother their perimeter players?

BR0D1E86 · Post #10 » by **BR0D1E86** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:08 am

Post presence, slashing guard... both are needs.

Von Wafer and JR Smith are not.