The Enigma That Is Fran Vazquez

Max Power · Post #21 » by **Max Power** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:47 pm

I think Vasquez is an athletic type of player, and in Europe everything is so "shooter" based. How else can we explain Dirk Nowitzki. His athleticism has intriqued be since we drafted him, but unless he gets here next season he isn't going to. He could help up front possibly. Foyle and Battie are gonna be even older next season.

magictreat · Post #22 » by **magictreat** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:06 pm

All of us will regret if that STIFF, ever wear a Magic uniform, I'd seen film of this guy, and he sucks, that is the final contribution of Brian Hill to the organization, with Twardzick's endorsement, GOD HELP US!!!!!

MoGrAdY · Post #23 » by **MoGrAdY** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:14 pm

MagicFan3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Because Smith and Twardzik do not know how to draft players.

Actually at the time they said that several teams in the lottery were interested in him. So its not like we made a NYK pick there. If he can play in the NBA yet it still a toss up but Ill give him the benefit of the doubt. I know we havent been good with drafting, but it is important to know we werent the only team that liked him that high.

spinedoc · Post #24 » by **spinedoc** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:32 pm

The draft is such a crapshoot anyway. I didn't mind the pick because he does look like a tremendous player, but I did have a problem with Otis and Tward not knowing all the variables involved. Of course he showed intent by being at the draft and visiting the city, but his family and girlfriend had the final say apparently. A couple of trips to Spain could have brought that to light a little better. Even if they knew for sure, why not take a free trip to Europe on the company dime? I know I would have. Hopefully he comes over next year, and his buyout will be more reasonable going into the final year of contract.

MagicalMan · Post #25 » by **MagicalMan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:50 pm

My guess is Fran and Battie are the reasons that Otis isnt making moves for any bigs. I think Fran will come over and that time heals all wounds. Fans wont forget, but once he dawns a Magic uniform they will forgive. At least thats my opinion on the matter.

Dwightmare · Post #26 » by **Dwightmare** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:02 pm

I watched a game of his less than a month ago while I was in spain visiting my grandparents. He started and picked up two quick fouls and never really got back into the game. But atleast he did start. One thing I noticed from watching a lot of spanish games is that the coaches use a much larger rotation of players and the game is a lot shorter. So that might help explain Fran's unimpressive minutes per game and stats.

Post #27 » by **FFBlitzace** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:10 pm

We really need some kind of PF prospect. I think we all should suck it up and hope he comes over.

EasternMagic · Post #28 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:28 pm

get your spanish ass over here

Post #29 » by **craig01** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:47 pm

I doubt he'll amount to much of anything anywhere.

He has physical talent, but as a basketball player is just plain insignificant. The Magic already have 6 of those on the roster right now.

Still, a stupid draft pick.

MagicalMan · Post #30 » by **MagicalMan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:49 pm

Well he would fit right in. He wouldnt play much, we would complain because he doesnt get any pt so he cant develop. Sound familiar?

MagicFan3 · Post #31 » by **MagicFan3** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:52 pm

MagicalMan wrote:Well he would fit right in. He wouldnt play much, we would complain because he doesnt get any pt so he cant develop. Sound familiar?

JJ > Fran

magicman123 · Post #32 » by **magicman123** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:54 pm

we dont know to much about fran, but fran aint no garrity

DiplomaticMagic · Post #33 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:48 pm

I'm almost beggining to think we should trade for a PG and SG now. And wait for Fran and Battie to come over. Not to mention Gortat, Auggie and Cook are still developing. And we're not going to win a championship this year. So let's roll with the cards we have dealt right now to the end of the season.

zerp · Post #34 » by **zerp** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:56 pm

Fran have not the level to play NBA, it's only a back up in Spain.

Nemesis21 · Post #35 » by **Nemesis21** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:14 pm

I think there are three teams that have the best shot bring him over, Toronto, Memphis and San Antonio. we might as well try to some how package him in a trade with one of these teams.

Dwightmare · Post #36 » by **Dwightmare** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:00 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:I think there are three teams that have the best shot bring him over, Toronto, Memphis and San Antonio. we might as well try to some how package him in a trade with one of these teams.

Hedo (7M)
2008 1st round pick
Rights to Franny

for

Bargs (4.5M)
Joey Graham (1.5M)

Nemesis21 · Post #37 » by **Nemesis21** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:10 pm

dwightmeer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hedo (7M)
2008 1st round pick
Rights to Franny

for

Bargs (4.5M)
Joey Graham (1.5M)

thats worth taking a look at(but leaning towards not liking this trade)

Nelson/Dooling/Arroyo
Kebo/Graham/JJ
Lewis/Mo/Garrity
Bargnani/Cook/Auggie
Dwight/Foyle/Gortat

Dwightmare · Post #38 » by **Dwightmare** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:17 pm

I like it a lot. Bargs has tons of potential and would spread the court for Dwight. He obviously doesn't fit playing next to another PF like Bosh. I wonder if they Toronto is committed to developing him since he was their number one pick, even though he should have been a 5th to 8th pick.

Dwightmare · Post #39 » by **Dwightmare** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:20 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:I think there are three teams that have the best shot bring him over, Toronto, Memphis and San Antonio. we might as well try to some how package him in a trade with one of these teams.

Garrity (4M)
Redick (2M)
Rights to Franny

for

Darko (6.5M)

:wink:

TGray22 · Post #40 » by **TGray22** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:27 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:I watched one game of his the year he screwed us over.....

And my god, he looked amazing.....

But I guess everyone can have their "one game".....

Just like Jeryl Sasser scoring about 26 points or so against the Boston Celtics... ahh, the good ol' days