Power Rankings - ESPN : CNNSI : NBA

Post #1 » by **itbobby007** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:08 pm

14 (15) Raptors 20-17 Depth is supposed to be one of Toronto's calling cards. But with Bargnani amiss and T.J. Ford into his second month on the shelf, Bosh might have to keep putting up huge numbers to keep the Raps where they are.

CNNSI

14 16 Toronto Raptors
Chris Bosh had 38 points and 14 rebounds as they cooled off the Blazers in double OT on Sunday to make it three straight victories. It was the second straight masterpiece for Bosh, who had 40 and 11 in last Friday's win at New York.

NBA

12 Toronto (15) 20-17 Off: 109.4 (11), Def: 107.4 (16) -- The Raps have won three straight, including Sunday's double-OT thriller over the Blazers, but the question remains: What's up with Andrea Bargnani?

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Post #2 » by **itbobby007** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:49 pm

Also, some small stuff from ESPN's daily dime regarding the Raps:

Daily Dime

Quote of the Night
"Scrapping is what we've been able to do this season, and tonight we got out-scrapped."
-- Blazers coach Nate McMillan, after his team couldn't pull a 116-109 double-overtime loss to the Raptors off the scrap heap of defeat.

Raptors forward Chris Bosh, with 38 points in the win over Portland on Sunday, continued a stellar run recently. His 55 minutes in the double-OT win were almost the most played this season.

Bosh-ketball, Last 9 Games

Category Stat
PPG 27.2
RPG 9.8
FG Pct 49.4
FT Pct 85.5
40+ Point Games 2
TOR W-L 5-4

El Presidente · Post #3 » by **El Presidente** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:37 pm

I think ESPN's quick analysis is pretty accurate. Unless he gets some help, Bosh will have to produce at an alarming rate for us to stay over .500.

Post #4 » by **Maritimer** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:38 pm

Seems about right... upper edge of the middle of the pack, and poised to make a jump if a couple things fall into place.

Nia · Post #5 » by **Nia** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:48 pm

Yeah I have to agree with ESPN a little bit here. If CB4 doesn't get any help, he would have to keep putting up those numbers, not 40 night, but some what around there, for us to keep winning.

gusguy · Post #6 » by **gusguy** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:03 pm

Nia wrote:Yeah I have to agree with ESPN a little bit here. If CB4 doesn't get any help, he would have to keep putting up those numbers, not 40 night, but some what around there, for us to keep winning.

How much help does he need. Yesterday two additional players had 20+ points as well. I think he should focus and help his team (communication) on defense!

James699 · Post #7 » by **James699** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:15 pm

nice. Now Raps need something going for Bargs, I suggest have Contender go on his website and bash him real bad. Then he will breakout, averageing 20 ppg a night.

Spinmang · Post #8 » by **Spinmang** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:18 pm

I dont think Bosh needs to carry such a large burden.

Yes, he has to be our best player on a nightly basis... BUT... in a case like the Blazer game there were many Raptors who played well.

I may be the only one, but was anyone else somewhat agitated that Parker did not see the ball during the second half?

Parker was shooting the ball wonderfully in the first half, then was given basically no touches in the second.

Im not saying he should be the focal point of the offence, but I think they should have ran a few of his patented Baseline screen, elbow jumper plays for him.

Also, as homerish as they are... Chuck and Leo make a good point... maybe Calderon should become abit more selfish at times. He is shooting the ball ridiculously well. An extra 3-5 shots a game could take a burden off Bosh.

cheerleader · Post #9 » by **cheerleader** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:06 pm

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http://fiyastarter.com/fs-pages/fs-spor ... 07-10.html

Raptors 11
Well, it's almost time to start questioning Bargnani over Aldridge, especially after Chris Bosh tried to them tell about that Texas Boy.

teamLeiweke · Post #10 » by **teamLeiweke** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:18 pm

What's up with Andrea Bargnani?

That pretty much sums it up for me.

It almost makes me feel it is something outside of basketball.

Personal, hurt, depression, losss of confidence, doesnt liek the coach, language barrier, home sick... W H A T I S U P ?

Mandrake · Post #11 » by **Mandrake** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:28 pm

James699 wrote:nice. Now Raps need something going for Bargs, I suggest have Contender go on his website and bash him real bad. Then he will breakout, averageing 20 ppg a night.

get a life ya piece of crap

ldnk · Post #12 » by **ldnk** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:30 pm

El Presidente wrote:I think ESPN's quick analysis is pretty accurate. Unless he gets some help, Bosh will have to produce at an alarming rate for us to stay over .500.

I think that is only partially true. The Raptors appear to be inconsistent on a player-by-player basis. But there have been a few games where Bargnani will put up points, or Delfino will, or Humphries will throw down 17 and 6 or whatnot to help out. The Raptors lack a true second scorer at this point (something that TJ seemed pretty close to at times) but it isn't like Bosh is scoring 50 points and the Raptors are barely winning games 80-79. Bosh is putting up 30-40 in some games and in others he is back around 20 or so. Generally when a player puts up 40 points, he took 40 points worth of shots, and that has been happening. I'm sure that if we took say 5 of Bosh's shots away and gave them all to Kapono taking 3-pointers that it would still amount to comparable stats.

Right now Bosh is shooting the ball well, and the Raptors should ride that because he was below his capabilities in the early part of the season.

Tom Baker · Post #13 » by **Tom Baker** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:50 pm

James699 wrote:nice. Now Raps need something going for Bargs, I suggest have Contender go on his website and bash him real bad. Then he will breakout, averageing 20 ppg a night.

I have a serious question for you. What does this have to do with this thread? I'm just asking because you post basically the same message every time you post in each and every thread regardless of topic.

You should just start an "Official Bargs Sucks" thread, ask a mod to sticky it, and then post in there only. No cheating and coming to these other threads, now. Stay in your own little steamy pile.

Tom Baker · Post #14 » by **Tom Baker** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:52 pm

itbobby007 wrote:EPSN

14 (15) Raptors 20-17 Depth is supposed to be one of Toronto's calling cards. But with Bargnani amiss and T.J. Ford into his second month on the shelf, Bosh might have to keep putting up huge numbers to keep the Raps where they are.

CNNSI

14 16 Toronto Raptors
Chris Bosh had 38 points and 14 rebounds as they cooled off the Blazers in double OT on Sunday to make it three straight victories. It was the second straight masterpiece for Bosh, who had 40 and 11 in last Friday's win at New York.

NBA

12 Toronto (15) 20-17 Off: 109.4 (11), Def: 107.4 (16) -- The Raps have won three straight, including Sunday's double-OT thriller over the Blazers, but the question remains: What's up with Andrea Bargnani?

Feel free to add.

Good idea to put everything in the same thread. Helps keep the board uncluttered.

And I'm glad we bumped up a spot in the RealGM rankings (the only one I really follow). We're moving in the right direction.

red_223 · Post #15 » by **red_223** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:41 am

El Presidente wrote:I think ESPN's quick analysis is pretty accurate. Unless he gets some help, Bosh will have to produce at an alarming rate for us to stay over .500.

Bosh is an all-star and has a maxed-out contract. He should produce at an alarming rate.