JJ Demands Trade?
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Lord Ashram:
Their are tons of elite college players who never accomplished anything in the NBA. That JJ Redick was a very good college player says no more about his NBA potential than it does about Adam Morisson.
As to the question of Redick's athleticism, an NBA caliber athlete should be a good college rebounded and shot-blocker and make steals. You can do those things if you're more athletic than the players you go up against (and, since they are college players, IF you have NBA athleticism that shouldn't be a problem). Redick was a poor college rebounded, got relatively few steals and never blocked shots. Those are red flags to a players athleticism. On top of that, you have Redick's wingspan, which is less than his height, meaning he lacks the reach that would help make up for the athleticism he doesn't have.
The players in the NBA are bigger and quicker than those he faced in college, so it is harder for him to get open off screens and get a shot off like Rip Hamilton can. Consequently, Redick is reduced to being a player who's offense comes from standing still at the 3-point line and waiting for someone to get him the ball. In short, he's Steve Kerr
The Magic coaches have known all of this, hence why he doesn't play much.
Their are tons of elite college players who never accomplished anything in the NBA. That JJ Redick was a very good college player says no more about his NBA potential than it does about Adam Morisson.
As to the question of Redick's athleticism, an NBA caliber athlete should be a good college rebounded and shot-blocker and make steals. You can do those things if you're more athletic than the players you go up against (and, since they are college players, IF you have NBA athleticism that shouldn't be a problem). Redick was a poor college rebounded, got relatively few steals and never blocked shots. Those are red flags to a players athleticism. On top of that, you have Redick's wingspan, which is less than his height, meaning he lacks the reach that would help make up for the athleticism he doesn't have.
The players in the NBA are bigger and quicker than those he faced in college, so it is harder for him to get open off screens and get a shot off like Rip Hamilton can. Consequently, Redick is reduced to being a player who's offense comes from standing still at the 3-point line and waiting for someone to get him the ball. In short, he's Steve Kerr
The Magic coaches have known all of this, hence why he doesn't play much.
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The only thing people can ever say against me is that I am biased and that I am only hatin on him because he went to Duke.
Believe it or not...he doesn't go to Duke anymore. He plays for my favorite team in any sport out there. I respect what he did in college. The fact is that he isn't there anymore and he is not showing any progress or steps in the right direction. If after 1 1/2 years in the league you are being called soft, there is a problem.
As for maginno...
You continue to twist what I say. I never said every SG in the league has to have those qualities...I am saying that other SG's in the league have some of those skills as to where JJ's only real skill is stanidng behind the 3-point line and shooting 3's...which he HAS NOT shown he can do at the level he did in college.
I would love nothing more than to see JJ play well for the Magic....the problem is that he isn't and he won't. He may go on to score 5-6 PPG for some other team but from day one I have been saying all of this and so far I am right and everyone that wants to hate on me is wrong.
You can disagree with me and I will respect that but to come out and say that he has proven that he deserves minutes or that he is capable of scoring 10+PPG is based on no evidence at all. Everything I base my argument on is pretty well documented. To say that you are basing your knowledge of how he is shooting now makes no sense. We haven't seen him shoot enough to make a judgement either way. But the fact that he hasn't had the chance would, without a doubt, say that he is not as affective as you are all making him out to be. Look at what has happened...it speaks for himself. If he were worthy of the minutes, he would be playing them. His head coach wouldn't call him out.
JJ never did do anything in college. You can score all you want, but if you lose, what good does that do?
As for "Lord Ashram"...
Congrats...he set the ACC scoring record. What does that mean in the NBA?
At Duke the ENTIRE offense was based around him and every time down the court picks were being set for him left and right for him to get open. Sure, if we were to do the same thing for him here he would score double digits. Give any guy in the league 20 shots a game and they better be scoring double digits. But that is not what we, or any other team, are going to do for him. He was a great college player, a GREAT one...but that means nothing now.
[quote]Heh. Moron. Go back to hick school. A hick school which, btw, JJ beat six times and only lost to five times. Whoops! So much for not doing anything to "your" school![quote]
Darn...We lost to Duke one more time than they did to us. It is a good thing we got that National Championship to make up for it.
Believe it or not...he doesn't go to Duke anymore. He plays for my favorite team in any sport out there. I respect what he did in college. The fact is that he isn't there anymore and he is not showing any progress or steps in the right direction. If after 1 1/2 years in the league you are being called soft, there is a problem.
As for maginno...
You continue to twist what I say. I never said every SG in the league has to have those qualities...I am saying that other SG's in the league have some of those skills as to where JJ's only real skill is stanidng behind the 3-point line and shooting 3's...which he HAS NOT shown he can do at the level he did in college.
I would love nothing more than to see JJ play well for the Magic....the problem is that he isn't and he won't. He may go on to score 5-6 PPG for some other team but from day one I have been saying all of this and so far I am right and everyone that wants to hate on me is wrong.
You can disagree with me and I will respect that but to come out and say that he has proven that he deserves minutes or that he is capable of scoring 10+PPG is based on no evidence at all. Everything I base my argument on is pretty well documented. To say that you are basing your knowledge of how he is shooting now makes no sense. We haven't seen him shoot enough to make a judgement either way. But the fact that he hasn't had the chance would, without a doubt, say that he is not as affective as you are all making him out to be. Look at what has happened...it speaks for himself. If he were worthy of the minutes, he would be playing them. His head coach wouldn't call him out.
JJ never did do anything in college. You can score all you want, but if you lose, what good does that do?
As for "Lord Ashram"...
Congrats...he set the ACC scoring record. What does that mean in the NBA?
At Duke the ENTIRE offense was based around him and every time down the court picks were being set for him left and right for him to get open. Sure, if we were to do the same thing for him here he would score double digits. Give any guy in the league 20 shots a game and they better be scoring double digits. But that is not what we, or any other team, are going to do for him. He was a great college player, a GREAT one...but that means nothing now.
[quote]Heh. Moron. Go back to hick school. A hick school which, btw, JJ beat six times and only lost to five times. Whoops! So much for not doing anything to "your" school![quote]
Darn...We lost to Duke one more time than they did to us. It is a good thing we got that National Championship to make up for it.
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SHS21 wrote:Its pretty obvious that you are a UNC fan LBPTarheel, concidently the rival of Duke, where JJ Redick played.
You are not the one to argue about JJ since you have a biased opinion of his skills because you hated him for 4 years. JJ my never be a great defender but he is the hardest worker on the court, and besides Turk he is the only one who can consistenly hit a jump shot.
I do agree though JJ should be traded but not for the Magic's sake, for his own because of the way he's been treated.
lol
Pot meet Kettle.
Your avatar is of JJ at Duke, does that not suggest a little bias?
Lord Ashram is an alumni of Duke, does that not suggest a little bias?
You said it yourself, you think that JJ should be traded, but not for the Magic's sake, for his own. I think you've made yourself pretty clear.
For what it's worth, I happen to agree with most of what he's said and I grew up a Duke fan.
Fooberman wrote:Lord Ashram:
Their are tons of elite college players who never accomplished anything in the NBA. That JJ Redick was a very good college player says no more about his NBA potential than it does about Adam Morisson.
As to the question of Redick's athleticism, an NBA caliber athlete should be a good college rebounded and shot-blocker and make steals. You can do those things if you're more athletic than the players you go up against (and, since they are college players, IF you have NBA athleticism that shouldn't be a problem). Redick was a poor college rebounded, got relatively few steals and never blocked shots. Those are red flags to a players athleticism. On top of that, you have Redick's wingspan, which is less than his height, meaning he lacks the reach that would help make up for the athleticism he doesn't have.
The players in the NBA are bigger and quicker than those he faced in college, so it is harder for him to get open off screens and get a shot off like Rip Hamilton can. Consequently, Redick is reduced to being a player who's offense comes from standing still at the 3-point line and waiting for someone to get him the ball. In short, he's Steve Kerr
The Magic coaches have known all of this, hence why he doesn't play much.
Well said.
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A few things:
First off yes, I am a Duke alumn.
However, that means nothing when it comes time to evaluating a player for the NBA. I would never have said Chris Carawell, an all ACC player, would make the NBA. I would never have said Nate James would make the NBA. I have never said Demarcus Nelson will make the NBA. They just don't have the skill set.
What I HAVE said is...
A) JJ Redick has skills that are valuable to an NBA team and outweigh any negatives he might have, especially when you consider that many of the guards of the Magic have similar negatives (i.e. not very good on D.) I have never said, anywhere, that he is an NBA All Star or that he is going to score 30 points a game or anything. Nothing even close.
B) That the Heels fan is clearly delusional as he tries to say a player who is one of the greatest scorers in college doesn't have ANY of the following traits:
"Bad dribbler
Can't create his own shot
Bad court vision
Can't rebound
No back to the basket game (obviously not Dwight style, but like a lot of SG's in the league)
He may not be a slow runner but basketball is a game of quickness...and JJ has none.
Amazingly unathletic
Weak
Short"
... and then tries to make it sound OBVIOUS to anyone who has watched; he says that everything he has stated has been "documented." Are you kidding?
This is simply delusional. I've watched maybe 10 Magic games that JJ has played in, as well as some 80 or so games that he played in against NBA level players while in college, and he has never looked so out of place on D, either on-ball or help, that it outweighs his positives. It has been well documented that JJ developed into being able to create his own shot by his senior year in college across most media sources. It has been clearly shown that he does not have "bad court vision;" you do not make the impact he does like that. He complains that JJ, a dedicated 3 point shooter, doesn't have a back to the basket game... which means what and why should we care? He makes some comment about JJ being a quick runner but then says he has no quickness... what? And how do you quantify that? Where is the documentation? He is weak? He is short? What? And all of these ABSOLUTE TRUTHS were made clearly with his college game in mind, a college game that was among the best, because everyone basically accepts that JJ hasn't had a chance to play in the NBA yet.
Come on; I am just calling a poster on some really ridiculous comments that show nothing but bias.
As for Fooberman's comments, I largely agree... in fact, JJ struggled most in college when up against a long, lanky, athletic defender. That will be an issue for a guy with a short wingspan. However, he was also triple teamed pretty regularly in college. In an offense where JJ will see single coverage, and will see single coverage further out on the floor (and thus further from the post) and where he has a player like Howard in the post who demands a double team an awful lot, and considering that JJ is very good at feeding the post (better than most of the Magic guards from what I've seen) and very good at shooting the three... well, where is the issue? Redick wasn't a huge rebounder in college because he was 26 feet from the basket. However, he did average 3 rebounds a game, which isn't terrible for a guy who was largely a 3 point specialist. And to say that all this leaves him as "Steve Kerr?" Uh... yeah, that would be LOVELY!!!
Bottom line is Redick hasn't had a chance to play in the NBA yet. Both coaches have alluded to defense being a problem, while Orlando has gotten lit up at the SG spot quite often. While Redick has gotten VERY spotty minutes, minutes that ANY player would struggle with after being a dominant player for years, he has shown many times an ability to score the basketball. Has he looked bad at times? Sure, he is an NBA rookie getting the most inconsistent minutes that I've ever seen in the NBA. But he HAS proved on some of the largest stages around that he is a real good basketball player, and it is baffling that the coaches won't give him a FAIR shot. And no, giving him 6 minutes in a game, watching him score 5 or 6 points, and then sitting him for 6 games is not a fair shot. Then again, I am not convinced that Brian Hill (who has a pretty spotty history with dealing with very talented players and has never been accused of being a good coach) and Stan VG (who was run out of Miami by Pat Riley, hasn't proven much other than that he can ride the coat-tails of Wade and Shaq, and was available when Donovan stayed with Florida) really are perfect judges of what a basketball needs.
I just hope he gets out of the mess that is Orlando basketball and onto a team that can actually make use of one of the most talented, ruthless shooters in history.
Oh, and btw, Heel, it was you who said JJ never did anything to your team. But he did; in fact, he beat it more often than not, which is a nice thing to be able to say about Carolina. And a title has absolutely nothing to do with that. Now, if we want to discuss Matt Doherty then we can discuss that title, but it has nothing to do with Redick.
First off yes, I am a Duke alumn.
However, that means nothing when it comes time to evaluating a player for the NBA. I would never have said Chris Carawell, an all ACC player, would make the NBA. I would never have said Nate James would make the NBA. I have never said Demarcus Nelson will make the NBA. They just don't have the skill set.
What I HAVE said is...
A) JJ Redick has skills that are valuable to an NBA team and outweigh any negatives he might have, especially when you consider that many of the guards of the Magic have similar negatives (i.e. not very good on D.) I have never said, anywhere, that he is an NBA All Star or that he is going to score 30 points a game or anything. Nothing even close.
B) That the Heels fan is clearly delusional as he tries to say a player who is one of the greatest scorers in college doesn't have ANY of the following traits:
"Bad dribbler
Can't create his own shot
Bad court vision
Can't rebound
No back to the basket game (obviously not Dwight style, but like a lot of SG's in the league)
He may not be a slow runner but basketball is a game of quickness...and JJ has none.
Amazingly unathletic
Weak
Short"
... and then tries to make it sound OBVIOUS to anyone who has watched; he says that everything he has stated has been "documented." Are you kidding?
This is simply delusional. I've watched maybe 10 Magic games that JJ has played in, as well as some 80 or so games that he played in against NBA level players while in college, and he has never looked so out of place on D, either on-ball or help, that it outweighs his positives. It has been well documented that JJ developed into being able to create his own shot by his senior year in college across most media sources. It has been clearly shown that he does not have "bad court vision;" you do not make the impact he does like that. He complains that JJ, a dedicated 3 point shooter, doesn't have a back to the basket game... which means what and why should we care? He makes some comment about JJ being a quick runner but then says he has no quickness... what? And how do you quantify that? Where is the documentation? He is weak? He is short? What? And all of these ABSOLUTE TRUTHS were made clearly with his college game in mind, a college game that was among the best, because everyone basically accepts that JJ hasn't had a chance to play in the NBA yet.
Come on; I am just calling a poster on some really ridiculous comments that show nothing but bias.
As for Fooberman's comments, I largely agree... in fact, JJ struggled most in college when up against a long, lanky, athletic defender. That will be an issue for a guy with a short wingspan. However, he was also triple teamed pretty regularly in college. In an offense where JJ will see single coverage, and will see single coverage further out on the floor (and thus further from the post) and where he has a player like Howard in the post who demands a double team an awful lot, and considering that JJ is very good at feeding the post (better than most of the Magic guards from what I've seen) and very good at shooting the three... well, where is the issue? Redick wasn't a huge rebounder in college because he was 26 feet from the basket. However, he did average 3 rebounds a game, which isn't terrible for a guy who was largely a 3 point specialist. And to say that all this leaves him as "Steve Kerr?" Uh... yeah, that would be LOVELY!!!
Bottom line is Redick hasn't had a chance to play in the NBA yet. Both coaches have alluded to defense being a problem, while Orlando has gotten lit up at the SG spot quite often. While Redick has gotten VERY spotty minutes, minutes that ANY player would struggle with after being a dominant player for years, he has shown many times an ability to score the basketball. Has he looked bad at times? Sure, he is an NBA rookie getting the most inconsistent minutes that I've ever seen in the NBA. But he HAS proved on some of the largest stages around that he is a real good basketball player, and it is baffling that the coaches won't give him a FAIR shot. And no, giving him 6 minutes in a game, watching him score 5 or 6 points, and then sitting him for 6 games is not a fair shot. Then again, I am not convinced that Brian Hill (who has a pretty spotty history with dealing with very talented players and has never been accused of being a good coach) and Stan VG (who was run out of Miami by Pat Riley, hasn't proven much other than that he can ride the coat-tails of Wade and Shaq, and was available when Donovan stayed with Florida) really are perfect judges of what a basketball needs.
I just hope he gets out of the mess that is Orlando basketball and onto a team that can actually make use of one of the most talented, ruthless shooters in history.
Oh, and btw, Heel, it was you who said JJ never did anything to your team. But he did; in fact, he beat it more often than not, which is a nice thing to be able to say about Carolina. And a title has absolutely nothing to do with that. Now, if we want to discuss Matt Doherty then we can discuss that title, but it has nothing to do with Redick.
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To anyone who thinks JJ can play in the NBA cause he broke the ACC scoring record, let me tell you about a man named Don McLean. He broke the Pac 10 scoring record while at UCLA in the mid-90's, and he flamed out in the NBA cause he was underathetic. Christian Laettner, Brandin Knight, Gerry McNamara, Trajan Langdon, Joe Forte, Shawn Respert...the list goes on of great college players who couldn't hack it in the NBA. This is not to say JJ can't carve out a niche, I am only saying what he did in college means very little now.
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Lord Ashram wrote: I've watched maybe 10 Magic games that JJ has played in, as well as some 80 or so games that he played in against NBA level players while in college, and he has never looked so out of place on D, either on-ball or help, that it outweighs his positives.
So you haven't seen the multiple games where he comes in for 2 minutes and his man scores on him two straight posessions with layups?
And I'm not talking about Kobe Bryant, I'm talking Jeff McInnis.
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devin3807 wrote:lol
Pot meet Kettle.
Your avatar is of JJ at Duke, does that not suggest a little bias?
Lord Ashram is an alumni of Duke, does that not suggest a little bias?
What suggests...no correct that ...what screams to any intelligent person a bias is when he said neither JJ nor his team had done a damn thing in college. Thats when I just broke off. the conversation. Plenty of players didn't win championships so its obvious what he meant to say even after trying to cover it later. Further more anyone that lists or tries to defend the idea that JJ not being a shot blocker is a rational criteria (even if listed amongst other criteria ) for not making it as a guard in this league needs some help.
Since you said "well said" I'll add you to the list of those in need of basketball assistance.
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Hairy Midget wrote:So you haven't seen the multiple games where he comes in for 2 minutes and his man scores on him two straight posessions with layups?
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I've seen a number of our players abused. I see all kinds of players abuse our players. Granted the worse was Billups on Jameer. Good night! That was a mugging. The court should have been roped off for forensics to collect evidence.
No doubt about it JJ is a defensive liability but I think once you get that reputation people overstate it a bit .
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maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
What suggests...no correct that ...what screams to any intelligent person a bias is when he said neither JJ nor his team had done a damn thing in college. Thats when I just broke off. the conversation. Plenty of players didn't win championships so its obvious what he meant to say even after trying to cover it later. Further more anyone that lists or tries to defend the idea that JJ not being a shot blocker is a rational criteria (even if listed amongst other criteria ) for not making it as a guard in this league needs some help.
He said that tarheel can't argue about JJ since he is biased.
I pointed out how he, himself, with his JJ (Duke) avatar, and his statements regarding what's best for JJ and not Orlando, as well as the statements by Lord Ashram (a Duke alumni) would also fall into the same category -- biased.
Since you said "well said" I'll add you to the list of those in need of basketball assistance.
I know, I know.
If ever I may achieve the admirable level of basketball knowledge such as yours, I will feel truly blessed.
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devin3807 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I know, I know.
If ever I may achieve the admirable level of basketball knowledge such as yours, I will feel truly blessed.
My feelings exactly.
The only thing I don't understand is how people can straight up tell me I am wrong. If your opinion is different, fine...but there is not a single shred of evidence that supports JJ being a good NBA player. If there is, please show it to me.
My basic evidence he won't amount to a good NBA player:
It is his second year in the league, 2nd different coach, and he has yet to even come close to cracking the rotation. His current head coach called him soft.
You guys are all basing your arguments on what you THINK he can do if he got the chance. You ignore the fact that maybe there is a reason he doesn't get the chance.
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maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
What suggests...no correct that ...what screams to any intelligent person a bias is when he said neither JJ nor his team had done a damn thing in college. Thats when I just broke off. the conversation. Plenty of players didn't win championships so its obvious what he meant to say even after trying to cover it later. Further more anyone that lists or tries to defend the idea that JJ not being a shot blocker is a rational criteria (even if listed amongst other criteria ) for not making it as a guard in this league needs some help.
Since you said "well said" I'll add you to the list of those in need of basketball assistance.
I'm not sure whether you're being dishonest in your characterization of what I said or just don't understand it. Whether you are morally or intellectually flawed I'll leave for others to decide.
Blocks are a measure of athleticism. If a player is significantly more athletic than the man he is guarding, he should be able to block some shots (and if you have NBA athleticism, you should be significantly more athletic than the player you are guarding in college). That doesn't mean that a guard's blocks per game matters in itself. It is a measure of something else. Steals and rebounds (normed to size) are the same way. They can tell you a great deal about a player's athleticism, and in each area Redick was very mediocre. John Hollinger at ESPN certainly considered those things to be very relevant in figuring out which college players would make good pros, and I'm guessing he knows more about basketball than pretty much everyone here.
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Fooberman wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I'm not sure whether you're being dishonest in your characterization of what I said or just don't understand it. Whether you are morally or intellectually flawed I'll leave for others to decide.
My morality? excuse me a second.........
Okay I'm back. Now who not "intellectually flawed" would think "others" on an online forum could determine someones morality without a lie anywhere in sight.
Its simple Foob. You said
"an NBA caliber athlete should be a good college rebounded and shot-blocker and make steals"
which pretty much implies (actually directly states) that in order to make it in this league (NBA caliber) you have to be good at all three (go back and read where I specifically singled out just one "even amongst other criteria"). So go ahead genius and tell me that every NBA guard in the league should be a decent shot blocker and that shot blocking is one of the key criterias for selecting a guard out of college.
Lets face it. its a lame attempt to PAD the reasons why Reddick won't make it in this league. Thats all it is extra stuff to add on to make the case seem more reasonable. Athleticism was discussed before - as long as he can get off his shot (he can and he has even when not wide open as you state) thats all he needs to be a valued specialist in this league. He doesn't play for one reason - His defense stinks on a team that is already poor on defense. Not because he isn't athletic enough, not because he doesn't block shots. Thats why in recent post game interview Stan said no one was playing defense so he might need to revaluate JJ's playing time. Or did you miss that or thought he said no one was athletic?
The hilarious thing about it is that in the process you mention Kerr as a put down of Reddick.
Its news to me that Steve kerr was not "NBA caliber" um sorry. Excuse me again........
and you equate him with Reddick who you claim isn't. What? four or five rings, one of the all time best shooters in the nba from the three point line. Yeah I guess comparing him to JJ just about puts an end to jj's career.
So whether you claim its a measure of athleticism or its a necessary at the NBA level makes no difference. Its a flawed conclusion and your very own example Mr.Kerr himself indicates NBA caliber can be achieved in a variety of ways not pigeon holing on one two or even three criteria.
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
My feelings exactly.
The only thing I don't understand is how people can straight up tell me I am wrong. If your opinion is different, fine...but there is not a single shred of evidence that supports JJ being a good NBA player. If there is, please show it to me.
My basic evidence he won't amount to a good NBA player:
It is his second year in the league, 2nd different coach, and he has yet to even come close to cracking the rotation. His current head coach called him soft.
You guys are all basing your arguments on what you THINK he can do if he got the chance. You ignore the fact that maybe there is a reason he doesn't get the chance.
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
My feelings exactly.
The only thing I don't understand is how people can straight up tell me I am wrong. If your opinion is different, fine...but there is not a single shred of evidence that supports JJ being a good NBA player. If there is, please show it to me.
My basic evidence he won't amount to a good NBA player:
It is his second year in the league, 2nd different coach, and he has yet to even come close to cracking the rotation. His current head coach called him soft.
You guys are all basing your arguments on what you THINK he can do if he got the chance. You ignore the fact that maybe there is a reason he doesn't get the chance.
NEM wrote: However, I'm a fan of my team winning so, keep the winning coming. All the "tank" fans can take their crap to another board. We are here to win.
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Cammo101 wrote:To anyone who thinks JJ can play in the NBA cause he broke the ACC scoring record, let me tell you about a man named Don McLean. He broke the Pac 10 scoring record while at UCLA in the mid-90's, and he flamed out in the NBA cause he was underathetic. Christian Laettner, Brandin Knight, Gerry McNamara, Trajan Langdon, Joe Forte, Shawn Respert...the list goes on of great college players who couldn't hack it in the NBA. This is not to say JJ can't carve out a niche, I am only saying what he did in college means very little now.
You must not forget Johnny Neumann from Ole Miss in the early 70's.
Averaged around 40 ppg.
A great scorer, rebounder, passer does not always translate to the NBA regardless of the accolades accrued while in college.
I do have doubts about Redick and his inability to get separation on the perimeter, but I am not yet willing to write off a player I've barely seen in two seasons.
He wouldn't be the first error in judgment by the Magic no matter what Redick does or does not do in his NBA career. I expect that this will be an error too (either impatient in tossing him away, or making another wasted pick in the draft).
This is a situation that needs to be resolved IMO.
Basketball is driven by three principles:
1) Movement 2) Application of fundamentals 3) Predictability
1) Movement 2) Application of fundamentals 3) Predictability