Do you consider Calderon a top 10 point guard?
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I don't know if he is a top 10 player yet, I won't feel comfortable with that til at least half a season has passed. That being said, I see some pretty whack names being thrown out as "on the same level as him" or better.
Tinsley
Mo Williams
Fisher
Felton
Nelson
Are not better than Calderon as point guards. Tinsley is Calderon if he shot %13 lower and turned the ball over a couple more times a game.
Mo can score alright, but he doesn't run an offense nearly as well which hurts his team because the other primary ball-handler (Redd) goes into black-hole mode every once in a while. Fisher? Come on, great addition to the Lakers because he is a decent defender and clutch shooter but that's all he is. I'd imagine people say Felton because they haven't seen him play, he is athletic no doubt but he can't convert shots at the rim on a consistent basis which leads to chucking a little too often. Nelson is a shooter off screens and a game manager but he can't control the tempo of the game or make it easier for the players on his team.
Miller, Hinrich, and Bibby. I'd take Calderon over all these guys going forward. The question with Jose is how much better is he going to get? He's obviously played well as a starter, at least as well as Miller or Bibby have in a while and the only thing Hinrich has on him is defense. I guess you could make the argument that these guys have all been better than him the past two seasons but Bibby and Miller are older and could be going downhill and Hinrich was always a little over-rated.
I get annoyed by all the raps fans too, but don't just throw out the names of any starting point guard in the league and say they are better.
Tinsley
Mo Williams
Fisher
Felton
Nelson
Are not better than Calderon as point guards. Tinsley is Calderon if he shot %13 lower and turned the ball over a couple more times a game.
Mo can score alright, but he doesn't run an offense nearly as well which hurts his team because the other primary ball-handler (Redd) goes into black-hole mode every once in a while. Fisher? Come on, great addition to the Lakers because he is a decent defender and clutch shooter but that's all he is. I'd imagine people say Felton because they haven't seen him play, he is athletic no doubt but he can't convert shots at the rim on a consistent basis which leads to chucking a little too often. Nelson is a shooter off screens and a game manager but he can't control the tempo of the game or make it easier for the players on his team.
Miller, Hinrich, and Bibby. I'd take Calderon over all these guys going forward. The question with Jose is how much better is he going to get? He's obviously played well as a starter, at least as well as Miller or Bibby have in a while and the only thing Hinrich has on him is defense. I guess you could make the argument that these guys have all been better than him the past two seasons but Bibby and Miller are older and could be going downhill and Hinrich was always a little over-rated.
I get annoyed by all the raps fans too, but don't just throw out the names of any starting point guard in the league and say they are better.
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rondo and felton are not better than calderon....seriously.
im a raps fan and i used to be in doubt about calderons abilities while he was being hyped up by raps fans. I thought he could make some spot starts and be effective but i just thought he was a really good back up. I always thought TJ was the undisputed #1 pg. Since TJs gone down I am finally seeing the light. Hes a guy who shoots 50% from the field 40% from 3 and dishes 8.3 ast with 1.4 TOs....that is a ridiculous ratio.
im a raps fan and i used to be in doubt about calderons abilities while he was being hyped up by raps fans. I thought he could make some spot starts and be effective but i just thought he was a really good back up. I always thought TJ was the undisputed #1 pg. Since TJs gone down I am finally seeing the light. Hes a guy who shoots 50% from the field 40% from 3 and dishes 8.3 ast with 1.4 TOs....that is a ridiculous ratio.
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