Emeka Okafor

[dareru]

I like him, but not for the price he'll command...

Besides, he can't even hit a 3... pass...

[J3x]

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Love can hit the 3 ball and he's the greatest outlet passer since the days of Wes Unseld and Bill Walton.

Love is too slow to play for the warriors.

just get devon hardin and ill be happy. we missed out on sean williams and now look... we could use his rebounding dunking and blocking.

[Twinkie defense]

The market for free agents seems to have shriveled significantly (except for a few player), but I don't think all of the players and their agents got the message. This summer should be interesting for a few guys, who'll see if they can still even get what they were offered last summer.

[WarFan]

The market for free agents seems to have shriveled significantly (except for a few player), but I don't think all of the players and their agents got the message. This summer should be interesting for a few guys, who'll see if they can still even get what they were offered last summer.

I totally agree with you and I'm starting to think that Mullin will play hardball again this summer with Monta and Biedrins. Of the teams that will likely have cap space, only Atlanta would appear to be a likely suitor to try offering one of them a contract big enough that Mullin wouldn't match. However, Atlanta's got to figure out their own FA's with Smith and Childress, signing either of which takes most of their cap room plus I don't think Billy Knight's gonna pull off any shrewd moves soon. The other teams (Sea, Clips) that could conceivably get cap room to offer enough to Monta that GS won't match I think are more likely to look for a guard in the draft.

Basically, if either Monta or Andris want extensions this summer, I think it's very likely that they'll have to take offers that are not much more than the MLE. Their other option would be to take the QO and go at it again as UFA's as well as giving the Warriors another year to evaluate their progress. Of course, as of now the Warriors will have a ton of cap room in the summer of 2009 and it could work out best for both sides.

[Twinkie defense]

Isn't Atlanta still hamstrung on handing out contracts? I remember the legal dispute between the owners preventing them from making any significant transactions (regarding both money and contract length).

I'd hate to see either Monta or Beidrins become unrestricted, hopefully they can work something reasonable out.

[FNQ]

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Love is too slow to play for the warriors.

just get devon hardin and ill be happy. we missed out on sean williams and now look... we could use his rebounding dunking and blocking.

I'm sick of this ideology (sorry to pick on you bud)

There is no "too slow" for the Warriors for PF/C. Is our PF/C leading the break? Is our PF/C the guys finishing?

We NEED a player like Love... so that when we do run out to an early lead, we can actually fend off the other team or expand it in a halfcourt set. I'm sick of the same story every game... 2-3 quarters of crappy halfcourt ball, followed by 1 quarter of uptempo frantic ball. Imagine if those 2-3 quarters, we had a solid inside presence, or someone who could get consistently good looks at the basket...

This whole "everyone needs to run" garbage is tired, old, and beatable... its a great way to get a lead, and a great way to piss one away too.

[turk3d]

I don't care what we do, as long as we position ourselves to bring back Monta and Beans next season. Let's not get too smart with these guys, otherwise we may lose them. And let's not put ourselves in an untenable position salarywise either, thinking we can offer either of them the MLE and get away with it. We have TWO potential franchise players (not just one) who are only 21 and 22 years old with a third (Baron) on the team right now. I don't want to lose any of them right now, and as much as like Okafor, I'm unwilling to put ourselves in jeopardy.

[J3x]

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I'm sick of this ideology (sorry to pick on you bud)

There is no "too slow" for the Warriors for PF/C. Is our PF/C leading the break? Is our PF/C the guys finishing?

We NEED a player like Love... so that when we do run out to an early lead, we can actually fend off the other team or expand it in a halfcourt set. I'm sick of the same story every game... 2-3 quarters of crappy halfcourt ball, followed by 1 quarter of uptempo frantic ball. Imagine if those 2-3 quarters, we had a solid inside presence, or someone who could get consistently good looks at the basket...

This whole "everyone needs to run" garbage is tired, old, and beatable... its a great way to get a lead, and a great way to piss one away too.

hes more of a half court guy is what i was trying to say. he needs to play with his back to the basket but dotn get me wrong, i would love to have love on the warriors, i just dont really see it happening unless love stays till nelly leaves. that would be ideal actually.

ellis
bukie
(future sf)
love
beans

sixth man - bellinelli

thats a wonderful future, if it were at all possible.

but seeing that its gunna be run and gun for a while hardin would be nice inside with beans. thats all i was trying to say.

[FNQ]

We live and die by the 3 ball and fast breaking...

What makes it impossible for Love to be in an uptempo offense? He isn't skinny enough? Maybe he runs the 40 about a second slower than Biedrins... so the what?!?

How many times a game do we have back to back breaks? Maybe 2, 3 times? Now how many times do we have to settle for a halfcourt set? 40? 50?

What's shocking me is how low Love is being ranked so far... he'd be a good fit for us. Hardin would be more of what we already have IMO with Biedrins... hes a little stronger and more traditionally built, but he wont be an offensive player...

Love's my #3 in the draft of players I'd prefer to see with us... DeAndre Jordan and Serge Ibaka make the list at 1/2... Marcus Dove #4 (he'll likely go undrafted though)

[old rem]

You think those chuckers are being told by Nellie to get Biedrins involved? Run a play in the post? Nah... Nellie is just completely baffled on how to use people who can't shoot 3s or create their own shot face up... I get the impression he believes the NBA is 5 little 1 on 1 games...

A bit of an overstatement but there's some truth in it. Just the same--I'd bear in mind that Nellie is not long term and while I doubt there is a viable way to get Okafor...if there was-I'd jump on it.

[old rem]

[quote="510Reggae"][/quote]

Absolutely.

I'm more in favor of Hansborough,who is more experianced and a bit quicker. Love could-however-work. Ryan Anderson of Cal is a nice sleeper if he's in the draft. What I'd be wary of is the "Raw Athletic" type. There will be guys much more raw than Be Right or POB or Kosta. While I hate to pander to Nellie's fetish with mini lineups taking low % shots,I'd also hate to draft a guy who rusts away before he sees minutes.

Mullin has to find the delicate balance. He needs to get a player with a high probability of success that is good for now and for the post Nellie future. Mullin should encourage Nellie to consider adding what we LACK..not stockpiling more of what we have.

As in any draft...you look at the physical tools and the skills.....then you look for the intangibles,ability to learn and adapt fast,team attitude,hustle.
You look for red flags. The " High Risk-High Reward" type can be great in some situations. Nellie and this staff do better when there is a known quantity here and now. I'd think Ubaka would be a VERY risky pick. Way too "project" Sort of Diogu minus the skills Ike developed in 3 yrs of Pac 10 starting.

I see a Power/big/rebounder as what can ADD to this team. As we know...that's the very type Nellie seems to have contempt for. I'm (often) promoting Hansborough in part because he's the classic "coaches player",and seems a Big that can get minutes under Nellie. With some other coach-I might lean more to Hardin. With Nellie,not so much. He would pick at every flaw in Hardin's fundamentals...before sending him on a trip to Bakersfield. I think Nellie would like Ryan Anderson a lot,he has SF skills,3 range,moves well,yet can play bigger than you'd expect. Maybe Nellie sees an Econo-Nowitzki

[gswlego]

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Love is too slow to play for the warriors.

just get devon hardin and ill be happy. we missed out on sean williams and now look... we could use his rebounding dunking and blocking.

A lot of people called me el loco chino for suggesting him. They say he was a "risk" because of his off the court issues. Whatever.

[Mylie10]

Okafor is to expensive for us. He's a real nice player who doesn't seem to be motivated to win (could be wrong).

But at his price tag we're out of the running.

[turk3d]

What about 7'2 Roy Hibbert? He hit a game winning 3 the other night. Don't know if we'd be in a position to go after him although he seems more Nellie's style.

[Dav7z]

Hibbert is a man child . I don't think either one of our teams will see him around when we pick. Hes slow and might not fit what either team is trying to do. But would be great in a half court sets.
Hansborough ., Me being a Big Carolina fan .I don't even think hes even close to being even a rotation player in the N.B.A.
I saw Mays and Swift two players from Clemson just flat out abuse him .
I don't think hes going to be able to handle the big NBA bodies at a 6.10 or 6.11 he would face ever night unless his jump shot is much better than we all think.

[Sleepy51]

Hansborough ., Me being a Big Carolina fan .I don't even think hes even close to being even a rotation player in the N.B.A.

Is it just me or is Hansborough actually only a 6'7" body with a freakishly long neck?

He's going to be very similar to Madsen at the next level. He's certainly smarter and has a little more polish, but he doesn't do very many things in a way that will translate all that well to the next level. He'll be a rotation player for a few years, but he's never going to be anyone's starter.

[The Hypnotoad]

Why don't you guys just use your trade exemption to get Kurt Thomas? I'm sure the Sonics will be merciful and give the guy a shot on a contender when the trade deadline comes around. I think he'd be pretty good on your team cause he played decently with the Suns.

[Dav7z]

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Is it just me or is Hansborough actually only a 6'7" body with a freakishly long neck?

He's going to be very similar to Madsen at the next level. He's certainly smarter and has a little more polish, but he doesn't do very many things in a way that will translate all that well to the next level. He'll be a rotation player for a few years, but he's never going to be anyone's starter.

Agreed if i had to compare him to any body thats the guy i would compare him to. I think hes really 6'8 and he really got bitch slaped by Mays and Swift.
Carolina guys to look out for 1st Ty Lawson probelly faster than any point in the NBA right now down side only 5'11 and is not consistant hiting the three.
Ellington. Very smooth shooting guard , Seems to be able to create for his self and hit the big shots . Downside he could play better defence.
I would take either one of those two over Hansborough

[RayRe]

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I would say so... if Yao Ming, Howard, and the likes stands on the 3 point line.

The last time I checked, Biedrins was not allow to doing anything but to shoot with 5 ft of the basket. We can blame our chuckers for not involving him.

I thought nellie wanted him to shoot a 3 for fun but biedrins dosnt want to.

[custodianrules2]

At some point we need size... an anchor in the paint to control the glass, play interior D, score high % points, and set up perimeter players. If there is a 6'9, 260 pound Carlos Boozer clone, I'd take him. A scoring, passing big man is what we need just in case somehow Brandan Wright doesn't work out. BTW I like Brandan Wright. Great footwork, passing skills, with amazing quickness, athleticism, and length should go well at some point in time... once Nelly is gone I mean.