Buck-Kings

Smills91 · Post #1 » by **Smills91** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:05 pm

Kings deal:
John Salmons
Kenny Thomas

Bucks deal:
Charlie Villanueva
Bobby Simmons

Bucks get their SF in Salmons that they've been searching for. Kings take a chance on Charlie V to fill the PF position.

Thomas/Simmons are equally as bad of contracts that facilitate the salary difference between Salmons/V to make this deal happen.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #2 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:06 pm

weirdo

Devilzsidewalk · Post #3 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:36 pm

I liked your first trade better

Pats19andO · Post #4 » by **Pats19andO** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:42 pm

Post #5 » by **pillwenney** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:58 pm

No way I would do that. Charlie V will be a nice player but not a franchise PF, and certainly not an ideal fit next to Spencer. I would much rather hold on to Salmons.

sackings916 · Post #6 » by **sackings916** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:00 pm

What does this accomplish for the Kings except the downgrade from Salmons to Villanueva?

Bac2Basics · Post #7 » by **Bac2Basics** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:35 am

Bad deal for the Kings

Salmons>>>>Charlie V
K.Thomas<Simmons

cam2win · Post #8 » by **cam2win** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:55 am

As much as I don't like Thomas' contract.....Bucks say yes, easily.

Post #9 » by **KF10** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:26 am

Kings decline...Salmons has so much value than this....

Smills91 · Post #10 » by **Smills91** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:30 am

What if the deal was altered to Mason/Voskuhl replacing simmons?

Salmons/Kenny

for

Charlie V/Voskuhl/Mason

Post #11 » by **KF10** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:36 am

Smills91 wrote:What if the deal was altered to Mason/Voskuhl replacing simmons?

Salmons/Kenny

for

Charlie V/Voskuhl/Mason

So, why we all sudden to drop Salmons like that? Even with the K9 package he still garnish more value than this IMO.... Besides Charlie V just doesnt fit in our defensive PF/C scheme....

Smills91 · Post #12 » by **Smills91** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:37 am

kingsfan10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So, why we all sudden to drop Salmons like that? Even with the K9 package he still garnish more value than this IMO.... Besides Charlie V just doesnt fit in our defensive PF/C scheme....

I'm just getting a feel for 'value'. This is one of my 'probing' threads.

sackings916 · Post #13 » by **sackings916** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:37 am

Do you see something in Villanueva that the rest of us dont?

Post #14 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:38 am

God, I would love to see the Kings with a CV/Hawes frontcourt....can you say lay-up line?

RIPskaterdude · Post #15 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:17 am

Most reports say that the Kings will trade Artest or Bibby before the season is over, and if that happens, will build around Martin, Salmons, Garcia and Hawes.

And personally.

Salmons >>> Garcia.

OhioKingsFan · Post #16 » by **OhioKingsFan** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:21 am

I have to be honest, out of the Martin/Salmons/Garcia/Artest log Jam, I really, really hope that Artest is the one to go. I am a huge Kings fan, have been my whole life, and as good of a player as Artest is, I like the Kings better with the other three. He is a great player, but I think both he and the Kings would be best served if he were traded before the deadline (for the right package).

Also, I really don't have much interest in Charlie either. I had really high hopes for him, but he is just not producing. But the idea to swap one of our SF's for a PF is right, I just think Artest should be the one to go.

Bac2Basics · Post #17 » by **Bac2Basics** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:25 am

OhioKingsFan wrote:I have to be honest, out of the Martin/Salmons/Garcia/Artest log Jam, I really, really hope that Artest is the one to go. I am a huge Kings fan, have been my whole life, and as good of a player as Artest is, I like the Kings better with the other three. He is a great player, but I think both he and the Kings would be best served if he were traded before the deadline (for the right package).
Also, I really don't have much interest in Charlie either. I had really high hopes for him, but he is just not producing. But the idea to swap one of our SF's for a PF is right, I just think Artest should be the one to go.

Your exactly right, it makes the most sense for the Kings to move Artest out of the collection of players you outlined, additionally other than Kevin Martin (who shouldn't be moved by Petrie for almost anyone) Artest should command the biggest package of the group

Smills91 · Post #18 » by **Smills91** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:11 pm

I differ of opinion. I think artest is a postive DIFFERENCE maker in the league. You lose him and you lose the ability to win close games regularly IMO.

I don't really see a huge logjam between Martin/Salmons/Garcia/Artest..it's Jones and Douby who's gonna get squeezed, unless we deal Bibby away for garbage and pickS.

Senor Bogut · Post #19 » by **Senor Bogut** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:04 pm

I'll take it. Though the bucks give up more potential, we're bringing capable role players and consistancy. We also don't need to worry about their injuries.