Kerr wants to trade?

[-SDU-]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... ef=mostpop

"I'm convinced the Suns are going to do something big," said one prominent agent who wished to remain anonymous. "I think if [general manager Steve Kerr] has his way, they'll move a major piece."

The agent, while admittedly unable to offer solid evidence to support his claims, isn't alone in his belief. Other NBA front-office types have said the same thing in recent days, citing widespread reports about the team's chemistry concerns.

Kerr won't talk about trade rumors, but one Suns official denied Tuesday that the team had any intention of dealing either of its two frontcourt stars.

[13-32]

Personally I really hope we don't make a MAJOR move involving Marion or Amare like some rumors are suggesting but I defintely think there is something missing

I'm starting to become more and more sure of it that we need a proper starting centre to play with Amare.

I really would like Okafor here somehow to put him up alongside Amare. He isn't exaclty happy in Charlotte after decling an extnesion and not being involved much at all offensively with J-Rich/Wallace being the main options

Just wondering though why would Kerr be interested in Gasol ? He is as soft as butter FFS

Tyrus Thomas is someone I would love here as Marion's replacement though I'll say that.

EDIT : Brand/Jermaine are both guys I'd do Marion packages for

[nashill]

id rather change the coach or the system..

[mkot]

Thomas is an athletic freak, but his IQ and work attitude is very suspect. I will not give up anything significant to get him here.

At the end of the article:

"Why would they risk it? It seems to me they've got a pretty good team right now," one Eastern Conference GM said. "In the end, I don't think they'll do anything."

My thought exactly. We may not win a title this year, which sucks, but I'll give this team a chance as long as nothing happens that crosses the point of no return with the players. I think we still have work to do, but most of it comes from coaching IMO. I really believe Mike isn't getting the most out of this group of guys. Maybe it's because of the struggling of some of our players (Boris and LB, and also with Amare's and Raja's injury), it just seems to me like they try to run the entire game even while 1) the energy level is low as a team and 2) Nash is not on the floor. Energy is not something you can always control, some day you just not gonna have it. And you can kill Nash for 40 minutes. We need some half-court offense, not just pick-and-roll and transition basket - we can post up Boris, get the ball into Amare at the low block. We have guys who can play in the half-court, we just don't prefer to use them. Take some pressure off Nash, do something different other than pick and roll, post up is more reliable than pick and roll especially when 1) we have a low post beast in Amare and 2) teams have managed to slow Nash down enough while bringing the ball up court to get their defense set and take our fast break away or at least defend well enough.

We just need to mix things up a bit. Get a post up once in a while and let Amare go to work. What's the worst that can happen? Amare dunks? Amare gets fouled? Gee, we're already in the half-court setting up anyway so why not try a post up rather than pick and roll 99% of the time. We stopped the clock and slowed the game down, true, but we also get 2 FTs and get a foul on the other team. And next time down, teams don't know if we're posting up or playing pick and roll. Make things harder for the opposing team.

I don't hate Mike, as many should know, I just beleive he could do a better job. We don't have anything available for trade, we have no more money, and we aren't going to rebuild, we just need to stick with our winning strategy (feed Amare!), get Hill healthy, try to get LB and Boris going, and perhaps a minor tweaking at the bench, we should be fine.

[nashill]

Thomas is an athletic freak, but his IQ and work attitude is very suspect. I will not give up anything significant to get him here.

At the end of the article:

"Why would they risk it? It seems to me they've got a pretty good team right now," one Eastern Conference GM said. "In the end, I don't think they'll do anything."

My thought exactly. We may not win a title this year, which sucks, but I'll give this team a chance as long as nothing happens that crosses the point of no return with the players. I think we still have work to do, but most of it comes from coaching IMO. I really believe Mike isn't getting the most out of this group of guys. Maybe it's because of the struggling of some of our players (Boris and LB, and also with Amare's and Raja's injury), it just seems to me like they try to run the entire game even while 1) the energy level is low as a team and 2) Nash is not on the floor. Energy is not something you can always control, some day you just not gonna have it. And you can kill Nash for 40 minutes. We need some half-court offense, not just pick-and-roll and transition basket - we can post up Boris, get the ball into Amare at the low block. We have guys who can play in the half-court, we just don't prefer to use them. Take some pressure off Nash, do something different other than pick and roll, post up is more reliable than pick and roll especially when 1) we have a low post beast in Amare and 2) teams have managed to slow Nash down enough while bringing the ball up court to get their defense set and take our fast break away or at least defend well enough.

We just need to mix things up a bit. Get a post up once in a while and let Amare go to work. What's the worst that can happen? Amare dunks? Amare gets fouled? Gee, we're already in the half-court setting up anyway so why not try a post up rather than pick and roll 99% of the time. We stopped the clock and slowed the game down, true, but we also get 2 FTs and get a foul on the other team. And next time down, teams don't know if we're posting up or playing pick and roll. Make things harder for the opposing team.

I don't hate Mike, as many should know, I just beleive he could do a better job. We don't have anything available for trade, we have no more money, and we aren't going to rebuild, we just need to stick with our winning strategy (feed Amare!), get Hill healthy, try to get LB and Boris going, and perhaps a minor tweaking at the bench, we should be fine.

i agree with all you said..man you should be the coach of this team or please tell SDU to tell Dantoni about this, they seem to be friends...

[JustMoe]

Hm, my first thought was "trading a major piece" means moving Marion. Can't see us trading Amare, and i don't even have to mention Nash.
The thing is: maybe they know more than we do regarding Trix's status next summer. In case that he stated internally that he doesn't want to stay with us, then I guess it depends on the offer. We might get a better deal in a s&t next summer, but who knows? Got to point out, though, that in case we even consider trading him for Gasol or Jermaine O'Neal I'll throw up. I really don't want either that soft crybaby nor the overpaid injury-prone declining dude on our roster. If Kerr wants to trade Marion, then he should try his best getting Brand, that would be a nice replacement.
I could also live with us trading Barbosa if the right pieces (aka a defensive-minded C) come back in exchange.

[rsavaj]

Hm, my first thought was "trading a major piece" means moving Marion. Can't see us trading Amare, and i don't even have to mention Nash.
The thing is: maybe they know more than we do regarding Trix's status next summer. In case that he stated internally that he doesn't want to stay with us, then I guess it depends on the offer. We might get a better deal in a s&t next summer, but who knows? Got to point out, though, that in case we even consider trading him for Gasol or Jermaine O'Neal I'll throw up. I really don't want either that soft crybaby nor the overpaid injury-prone declining dude on our roster. If Kerr wants to trade Marion, then he should try his best getting Brand, that would be a nice replacement.
I could also live with us trading Barbosa if the right pieces (aka a defensive-minded C) come back in exchange.

Yeah, Barbosa would definitely be our most tradeable asset right now. I'm all for moving him if we get good value back.

[mkot]

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i agree with all you said..man you should be the coach of this team or please tell SDU to tell Dantoni about this, they seem to be friends...

Thanks, but don't hate on SDU because he's a believer. I know he's been on the 'FEED AMARE' bandwagon for a while now, and my long post simply can summarize in two simple words - feed Amare. Hell, Boris has legit post up skills too, post him up.

[-SDU-]

man, dantoni is making mistakes for sure, hell yeah im on the feed amare bandwagon

i just dont think we should sack the coach

that doesnt mean i dont see faults he has

i think if we could add damon stoudamire (or sam cassell) to shore up the backup PG spot, and one more big (ie tim thomas, webber or PJ brown) to cover depth and add a starting quality big to our rotation, then the current squad should be set

as is we can win it as we are, BUT all things would need to go right, adding another big and backup PG would tip the scales in our favour slightly more in the sense that it would help with versatility and our slumps when nash goes out or amare has foul trouble

[eastsidecrossover]

I think we are missing something that we did not have. Grant has given us that mid range shot off the dribble, but bell really can't get off a shot with a guy in his face.

I am torn in what we should do. I really would like to do something, but not lose one of our core guys. Maybe they are thinking of trading Diaw as he has shown up a little more. I like barbs, but he drives me crazy a lot.

Last, I wish coach would change, and adjust hist style. That is what good coach's do. You have to find your weaknesses and work on them. DA seems to think all you have to do is run and score and that will take care of it. When I meet him and talked to him at Nash's party a while back, I almost asked him about some of this stuff and why he has not adjusted his system, but I did not. I did not want to be rude and stuff. I almost asked if he need a 4th string back up PG tho. Hell, I would take the league min to sit the bench

[mkot]

i just dont think we should sack the coach

I'm totally against it (firing Mike). Getting rid of him doesn't make sense unless you overhaul the team to play bigger and more "traditional". That means we are going make major roster moves, and that would at least waste another year in Nash's prime. Nash can't play forever, and we still have a competitive team out there trying to figure things out, why not give this group another chance since it's our best option right now.

And we will regret Mike's firing once we see him immediately hired to Sacramento or Atlanta and they start winning big, and we're stuck with ugly ball and mediocre records with lesser coach. No one is proven out there, and Mike is the best we can have right now.

[Togo]

It's time. I have watched every game this year...and there is something wrong. I don't see the fire I used to in the last couple years.

[walkingart]

I would rather have Noah over Thomas. It seems to me that Noah is a winner and will ultimately put the time in to get better.

However, anything involving Marion, will have to bring back mucho salary and I don't want Wallace or anyone else's crap, they are throwing out.

If we could package Barbs, Piat, & ATL Pick for Duhon, Noah, and Sefalosha, I would do it. ( I don't think CHI would do it, although Noah and Thabo can't get off the pine)

We get two players back in Noah and Sefalosha that we supposedly wanted in the past two drafts and Duhon can come in to back Nash up.

[eastsidecrossover]

Noah has been a cancer in Chi-town. I am not a big fan of him, and think he will not be anything special. I think we can get a better player in this years draft over him.

I also think we need a change to lite a fire under this team. They seem like they do not have it.

HOwever, I agree with sdu. Thing is about this team is we can not afford to address our weaknesses unless we get rid of a major piece. We have some great players that fit the system offensively. If you look at other teams, they over spend and the owner pays the lux tax to win. Or they have 2 stars and bring in a mixture of players from young to old who do not cost too much that fit a role for the team. We have to do one or the other to address our needs and weaknesses.

For instance, why are the lakers ahead of us now? They have certain players around the best player in the league. There coach (even tho I hate him) adjust his team, and has done a good job with an ok roster.

Last, I do not think the suns will pull the trigger on a major trade. (unless Kerr trades Marks for someone who will warm the bench. Ya

[myron]

What's happening with Chris Anderson? would we ever sign him?

[nashill]

Im still not in favor of a trade. Suns should just adjust and maximize teams potential and not be a one dimensional offensive team. We can be a good defensive team, a good half court team, we can solve rebounding problems ONLY IF DANTONI WANTS TO CHANGE. Actually not to change the system totally buy explore what this team can improve outside of the current system.

Actually, there is not much of complicated things to do or change. Dantoni should just read what mkot wrote.

[-SDU-]

i would LOVE noah here and im sure the suns would too

I know we dont look at good right now as previous years, but guess what? looking good in January meant nothing in those previous years

the spurs look average right now too, but as long as they are firing come may then thats all that matters

i guess im saying the same thing. I TRULY believe that in adding hill and skinner and losing jones and kurt, we are a better team this year than last year. If we arent firing or looking good in January, im not too concerned, because neither are the spurs. Its not how you play in January that wins you a title.

I totally agree that there are some concerning signs, but its not unrealistic to think this team will be sorted by april, bell barbs and diaw will all be back in their roles and we can take our run for the title from the 3rd or 4th seed rather than the top.

i keep resting at night with the thought we are improved on last year and soon enough we will eventually be playing like it.

im confident in it

[walkingart]

Noah is not a cancer. He is surrounded by overated, overhyped and overpayed teamates. If they don't like it when a rook tells it like it is, they should do something about it on the court.

I don't think he is going to be an All Star, but he has the potential to be a solid contributer who is on the fringe of making All Star teams. Physically, he has the tools, and I think he has the desire to get better unlike Thomas who was mentioned as well.

[dantian]

Marion/Banks/Pike/Marks

for

BenWallace/TyrusThomas/Duhon/Griffin

[TASTIC]

WE


DONT


WANT


WALLACE.


Unless it's Gerald or Rasheed.