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Post#1 » by supersub15 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:24 pm

Toronto Star
Raptors share the wealth and clobber Kings

They were mostly found by Calderon, who had 14 of those assists, giving him 1,001 for his tenure in Toronto, adding his name to a list that includes Alvin Williams, Damon Stoudamire, Vince Carter and Doug Christie as the only four 1,000-assist guys in Toronto franchise history.


Raptors driving in the right direction

This team has long defended its status as pacifists; hard fouls aren't in their makeup. But hard dribbles to the hoop shouldn't be too much of a stretch. Mitchell, who's been preaching it long enough, was heartened to see a little progress last night, even if more is required.

"I had to threaten Jamario with taking him out of the game if he didn't drive, and he drove, and he dropped the ball off to Chris for two free throws," said Mitchell. "We've just got to keep encouraging guys to do that."


Toronto Sun
Kings konged by Raps

Win or lose, good game or bad, Bosh at one point in his post-game discussion brings up the need for the Raptors to be more aggressive going to the basket.

Bosh has heard that from Day 1 from Raptors head coach Sam Mitchell and has heeded that advice far more often than not. Too often though he has been a gang of one.


Sam has his fun

Yesterday the question that set him off was the standard: "Any changes to the lineup?"

Mitchell reacted like a member of his family had just been insulted and then quickly went on the offensive.

"We're 3-1 in our last four games," Mitchell said. "The last time I checked the best you can be is 4-0. Unless you guys have some ideas how you can get better than that, I'm open to suggestion."

Globe & Mail
Raptors go on the rampage

"It all started with [Calderon] taking care of the ball and then [Bosh] giving the ball up. When he commands the double team, we have been talking to him about just making the first easy pass out of the trap, and he did that."


Yup, the Pistons are better than the Raptors

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Post#2 » by Nasty » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:44 pm

Wow, we finally outrebounded a team.

I was at the game last night, and let me tell you, the boos (though slight) were floating after Andrea missed 3 of his first 4 attempts or so.
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Post#3 » by MjM2xTreMe » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Thanks for the papers SS
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Post#4 » by miruss2001 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:49 pm

^ He's got to expect that given his performance this year. Regrettable, but understandable.
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Post#5 » by kingr » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:54 pm

Thanks,I was waiting for this.
Now go find some more stats, that show bargs sucks. :D

Naw, but seriously though...Who was saying those things during the pistons game?
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Post#6 » by rapstarr » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:55 pm

thx for the papers
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Post#7 » by Fairview4Life » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:56 pm

Nasty wrote:Wow, we finally outrebounded a team.


Just like the Pistons game they lost by 14 points.
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Post#8 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:16 pm

thanks SS
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Post#9 » by UnRealGM » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:20 pm

thanks ss
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Post#10 » by Theta64 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:42 pm

Hey, what happened to the other supersub, the one with the orangutan/monkey picture.
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Post#11 » by supersub15 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Morning After

Take a glance at Bargnani
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Post#12 » by theSkinny » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:55 pm

Nasty wrote:Wow, we finally outrebounded a team.

I was at the game last night, and let me tell you, the boos (though slight) were floating after Andrea missed 3 of his first 4 attempts or so.



We remarked, Here comes the Boo Birds when that happened.....you can tell alot of fans are holding back alot of discust with Bargs...

I as well was frustrated but decided booing players on SAC was more advantageous to the cause, and wish other fans would do the same
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Post#13 » by YogiStewart » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:26 pm

not really sure why Leaf, er, i mean, Raptor fans have the need to boo Andrea.
they booed him for missing shots. I admit that a few of the shot attempts were forced and not great shots, and those shots should be questioned. but he was booed for taking a deep 3 with 2 seconds left on the shot clock - that is not boo-worthy.

and the best way to boost a player's confidence is by booing them when they are making the smart play and taking a shot, but missing that shot.

i really wish these booing dummies would stay at home and boo their tvs instead. i'm betting they didn't watch the Raptors during the Greg Foster era - one of the few eras where boos were indeed worthy.
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Post#14 » by Vorticity » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:33 pm

hahaha Smitch kills me! :rofl:
Mitchell then asked for quiet and mocked the fact no one had a suggestion for him.

"Do you all hear that?" he asked. "I actually know something, that you all don't know.

"I have to savour this moment. What time is it? Six minutes to six on January 16 that I actually know something the media doesn't know. I'm amazed. I should just get on my mule and ride off into the sunset because I know something you all don't."


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Post#15 » by bychai » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:05 pm

Fully agree with that Bargs quote.

Thx for the papes once again, Mr. Mod :P
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Post#16 » by Hephaestus114 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:08 pm

supersub15 wrote:Morning After

Take a glance at Bargnani
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Post#17 » by Hephaestus114 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:16 pm

YogiStewart wrote:not really sure why Leaf, er, i mean, Raptor fans have the need to boo Andrea.
they booed him for missing shots. I admit that a few of the shot attempts were forced and not great shots, and those shots should be questioned. but he was booed for taking a deep 3 with 2 seconds left on the shot clock - that is not boo-worthy.

and the best way to boost a player's confidence is by booing them when they are making the smart play and taking a shot, but missing that shot.

i really wish these booing dummies would stay at home and boo their tvs instead. i'm betting they didn't watch the Raptors during the Greg Foster era - one of the few eras where boos were indeed worthy.


To be honest with you, I think the fans at the ACC have been more than a forgiving of Bargs. He's being saved by the half decent record. If these were the bad old days, he'd have been booed senseless by now for his glaring stupidity. He's turning into a seven foot, less athletic, worse rebounding Joey Graham. Think about that for a minute.

Fans are entitled to show their displeasure and the ACC crowd has given AB a ton of breaks. Unfortunately for Bargs, patience eventually wears thin when athletes don't perform..
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Post#18 » by Kurtz » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:45 pm

Hephaestus114 wrote:
supersub15 wrote:Morning After

Take a glance at Bargnani
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Post#19 » by Hephaestus114 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:58 am

Kurtz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well, clearly you and your section were geniouses of strategery. Surely a 7 foot centre should be glued to any "guy dressed in blue" standing beyond the 3 pt line.

I mean common practice would dictate for a C to gravitate towards the paint as opposed to sticking to "some guy" beyond the arc somewhere, but your section was anything but common.

It was special.


Oh? Was that sarcasm? I wasn't sure. You're absolutely right of course. We were too stupid to realize the genius strategy of on A. Bargnani.

If you leave the shooters wide open and pirouette in the lane while covering no one at all, you reduce the chance that someone might mess up your hair! GENIUS!

But to be fair to Mr. Kurtz, you're absolutely right! 7 footers should gravitate towards the paint. It's just unfortunate that Bargnani is allergic to the paint on the offensive end or when an opponent is attacking the basket. He likes it fine when he can stand there all on his own. Isn't there some rule against that somewhere? No matter, the special 7 footers like him don't have the responsibility of rotating on defense... ever. But honestly... even if you accept this answer, how do you explain the 4 different false starts towards a player that was already being rotated to by someone else? Must be that strategy you were talking about.

Face it, it wasn't a zone that caused his foolish response. It just took him 7 seconds to realize that there was a switch. Or perhaps he realized immediately, but it takes a second per foot for the message to reach his feet.

Oh and P.S. it didn't happen just once. But you should really blame Sam: after Bargnani screwed up the rotation the 4th or 5th time, he pulled him out of the game! THE NERVE!

Keep apologizing for the kid though. It's not his fault he refused to learn to the point that the coach stopped talking to him for a month. Some of you who dubbed AB the franchise savior are having a tough time eating crow. But it's about time you stopped acting like Bargnani himself. Headcases don't improve. Grow up and accept your deficiencies.
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Post#20 » by Kurtz » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:24 am

Hephaestus114 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Some of you who dubbed AB the franchise savior are having a tough time eating crow.


So that's it then? It's not enough for you to be able to boo Bargnani to your hearts content, you would only derive pleasure if those who believe in him also turn on him?

Would that really make you happy?

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