Andrea Bargnani for Tyrus Thomas

[gswhoops]

Both teams will probably hate me for daring to suggest that they trade their young guy, but if you think about it, it makes sense.

Chicago needs a big man who can score, that much is clear. For all of his deficiencies (rebounding, defense, etc.), scoring is one thing that Bargs can clearly do well. Losing Tyrus is not as bad because they have Noah and the "festering hatchet wound" Ben Wallace as rebounders/defenders.

Noah/Wallace
Bargnani/Smith
Deng/Nocioni
Gordon/Thabo
Hinrich/Duhon

Toronto needs an athlete who can play defense, block shots, and rebound. I don't know much about this Jamario Moon guy (who sounds like he might bring a lot of the same things) but regardless, they get a young, hyper-athletic guy who would thrive in a fast system with a good PG (like Toronto has). TT would fit in well as a Ben Wallace-esque (the old Ben Wallace) C - blocking shots, rebounding, scoring on ally-oops and tipbacks.

Thomas/Rasho
Bosh/Humphries
Moon/Kapono
Parker/Delfino
Calderon/Ford

[zong]

thomas will not be playing the 5 if he's acquired, he might have the hops to jump out of the gym, but cmon, he's skinnier than Bargnani!

Its way too early to give up on either, I'd be willing to do a deal involving Parker + Hump + Roko + Pick or two for Tyrus instead..

[coldfish]

You stole my line . . . I like it

One of the big reasons why Tyrus isn't playing is that his positions are the 3 and 4 spots. Chicago's best play has come from those spots. Its the 1,2 and 5 spots that are killing us. Bargnani would have the same problem.

At the end of the day, we would be just exchanging prospects with Toronto. What Chicago needs is a consolidation / upgrade trade where the team sends out several players for a guy better than what we have. There just are not enough minutes for the players we have, especially with Wallace getting 35 per night regardless of play.

Chicago taking on Bargnani would just kill him and his trade value, just like what the team has done with Tyrus.

Value wise, it may be just fine, but when taking team roster and needs into account, it doesn't fit the Bulls.

[gswhoops]

thomas will not be playing the 5 if he's acquired, he might have the hops to jump out of the gym, but cmon, he's skinnier than Bargnani!

Skinny IMO doesn't really have anything to do with what TT would be asked for as a C...sure he'd be undersized but, like the old BW, he'd have the rediculous athleticism to make up for it on help side D. And you'd still have the traditional big C (Rasho) for the few times a year you'd need to match up against Howard, Shaq, JO, etc.

Its way too early to give up on either, I'd be willing to do a deal involving Parker + Hump + Roko + Pick or two for Tyrus instead..

Yes, and I'm sure Chicago would be willing to do an Aaron Gray + Thabo + pick or two for Bargnani deal, but Toronto would reject that, no?

[Mr Swagtastic]

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Yes, and I'm sure Chicago would be willing to do an Aaron Gray + Thabo + pick or two for Bargnani deal, but Toronto would reject that, no?

Toronto isn't trading Bargnani I am sick of all these horrid deals for Bargs. The guy is learing a new style, system and position and has played a total of 100 games or less why is everbody calling him a bust?

Tyrus is a richmans Stromile Swift at best the Marion comparsions have to stop since Tyrus can't shoot to save his life nor does he have the playmaking ability that Marion has.

Colangelo wouldn't do Bargnani for Tyrus straight up since Tyrus can't play the 5 and Bosh hates playing there so that notion kills the deal.

[BR0D1E86]

So Bargnani has only played 100 games and therefore can

[miruss2001]

Cut the excuses- he's grossly underperformed and that might be because of the pressure he's under in Toronto as the Chosen One's chosen one.

Bargs, Kapono, Dixon, Graham and Roko for Nocioni, Noah, Duhon and Gray.

[JimmyBulls]

So Bargnani has only played 100 games and therefore can

[JimmyBulls]

I always thought that Bosh and Bargnini would be a bad fit together. I don't think you can have two jumpshooters at the 4 and 5. But i'm not sure if Thomas makes alot of sense for the Raptors either. He plays the same position as Bosh and he's not going to take minutes away from Moon and Kapono. So even in Toronto the result will be Thomas on the bench. Gray would be a much better player to send to the Raptors. I think Thomas could be moved for a late lottery, middle of the first round draft selection. The Sixers would be a perfect place for a guy like Tyrus Thomas.

[_MidNight_]

Meh not ready to give up on Bargs yet especially when he's just started listening to the coaching staff and not going through games and practice with half ass effort just to spite Sam and his coaches, We all know this kids got the talent and i say if he's now willing to listen to what the coaches are trying to teach him in regards to playing the center spot, i say we give him the chance to learn and put it into game situation...
I don't think there is much aside from Caldy and Bargs the could fetch us TT from the Bulls, but i would be willing to give up something along the line of a.. Delfino and one of Hump, Dixon and cash is need be though...

[BR0D1E86]

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Nearly everything you said about Bargnani is applicable for Thomas.

He was brought in to be a project, he isn

[j-ragg]

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Nearly everything you said about Bargnani is applicable for Thomas.

He was brought in to be a project, he isn

[j-ragg]

I'd make the trade if I was the Raps.

I'd try to just get away with Bosh at C in the east. If you can get away with Bargs doing it, Bosh can't be much worse of an option.

TT would compliment him a lot better than Bargs.

[HotSpurs21]

Bargnani can score, but he's not the low-post scoring threat the Bulls need