So the Magic Officially suck

[T.Duncan21]

They played like an elite team through the first 20 games, and have played like a number 10 or 11 seed since. They do suck. They have the talent to be up with the top 3 teams in the nba. They proved that over the first 4th of the season. But talent alone isn't enough. They are young and obviously very stupid.

Totally disagree with you about that they have the talent. They have one of the worst starting PG's in Jameer and SG's in Bogens or Evans. A middle of the pack guy in Rashard Lewis who is still a good player depite his contract. Hedo's been playing over his head and yet he's still not a top 10 SF. Obviously they have Dwight and because of him... they'll always be a playoff contender. Their bench isn't that great as well. It's a very poorly constructed team for the time being and for the future.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Oh god, Magic thread on the General Board. We all know how that goes. Yes we overpaid Shard and all that blah blah blah. Who cares? Everybody knows that. Don't gotta be an Einestien to figure that out.

And for ppl to think we won't go in luxury tax for players. YOU'RE WRONG! Do you realize we just paid the luxury tax like 2 years ago? Our GM has made it clear that we will pay if we put out a winner.

Jameer is not the worst starting pg in the NBA. He's just been switching roles and yet to get consistent. But I too think he's better off the bench but you're making him seem he's an awful player. When he's not. But he is suited to come off the bench. Because it gets him the abillity to score which what he does best. This year he's not looking for his shot that much. We should use him like Kings did in the Adelman era with Bobby Jackson. Jameer would arguably be the best PG off the bench in the league.

Bogans and Evans may not be the best starting 2-guards. But when did you need 5 all-stars in starting line-up? Bogans arguably, our best defender and knocks down the 3. Which he is top 5 in the league. Evans is a hustle guy who also plays great defense and likes to grab offensive rebounds and dunks it down. He can knock down the occasional 3.

And Look at our frontline! Due to Battie being out the year. We're playing Shard out of position. He is not a good defender and is suited at SF where he can post up SF's which was monein Seattle. Lewis is coming to life now too 5 of last 6 he's been over 20 pts. He's been driving to the rim, posting up, not just being a 3pt chucker. And if Battie was here he'd help us deeply. It's exactly what we need at the PF spot. And if he was here. We'd have Hedo coming off the bench. Who would be right up there with Ginobili and Barbosa for best 6th man in league. We got hopes for Fran coming over who was in ESPN this week giving us some hope and saying he wants to play in Orlando. Who can also help us.

And Dwight is still **** 22 years old. We won't be at our full potential till he is. And nobody knows how good he can be. But if he's not even in his prime and averaging 22 ppg 15 rebs. I say the future is pretty bright.

Please, no more magic threads on this board. Unless you know what you're talking about.

[hermes]

^^good stuff

[MagicalMan]

they start fast, slow down, then finish strong. Since you look at trends you would obviously know that they finish well. And since you think trends are fact, then by your definition they will finish strong.

[The NarrF]

Where is there veteran leadership?
They always have the strong start but, same story as last year.
I think that's the major problem.

[MoGrAdY]

Nothing to argue, were strugglin. I do however find it funny that Knicks posters, Raptors posters and other teams posters who are worse then us are talking about how we suck. How in the world can a Knicks fan ever say any team sucks? And if your teams record isnt better then the Magic and they suck, whats poppin with your team? Were going to be in the playoffs and thats the ultimate goal for the regular season. I would like to make a point though. Yes Hedo has been stupid good for us so far. But if youve seen some games Rashard has had just as much impact. In fact the last 5-6 games Hedo has played like crap and Rashard has averaged 24 PPG to keep us in games. We need both guys.

[TMACFORMVP]

They've really been slipping, especially considering the start they've got off to, but it should be different than last year. The bottom half of the East seems weaker than last season (as hard as that is to believe) and Dwight, Turkoglu are completely different players this season and obviously Lewis.

They won't slip like they did last season, but I don't think they're a legit contender to take down Boston or Detroit. Still good enough for 3rd/4th best team in the East which isn't bad for a relatively young team.

[Storm Surge]

the magic IMO are in danger of losing th division lead to the Wizards, no joke, even if they don't, when Gilbert gets back Washington>Orlando anyways.

The Magic remind me of Houston last year, both Van Gundys have the same styles I guess, dominant post player>>>kick out for threes.

Last year the rockets shot the most threes and made the 2nd most. The Rockets had less talent though, but still won 51 games, JVG>>>>SVG

[Schad]

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And as much as you think the Raps have had a tough schedule, it was nowhere near as tough as the Magic's.

Sagarin has the Magic at 16th, and the Raptors at 3rd. Hollinger states that the Raptors have had the most difficult schedule in the league, with the Magic 25th.

I agree that the back-to-backs and road games make it closer than either analysis suggests, but the Raptors have clearly played the more difficult schedule to date.

[T.Duncan21]

You guys are sayin that Jameer Nelson is best suited to come off the bench but u guys can only have that luxury if ORL had a legitimate starting PG. Jameer is the best of ur trio of PG's. Bogans or Evans are both bench players that should not be starting unless u have a stacked starting lineup.

When I criticize your team... it doesn't mean I think my team is better than yours. I just don't happen to think your team has a very good present nor future unless u guys can rip someone off in a trade. I think ur GM should have waited another season or two and seen what he has to work with and what the peices are needed to put ur team over the top. You guys were not a Rashard Lewis away from being contenders so IMO, Otis screwed up. Not only will u guys not be able to sign significant Free agents... your draft picks will always be in the 14-18 range. I feel like I'm hating on ur team a lot but the only reason I'm doing so is because I saw so much promise for Dwight and ORL... that it's a piss off knowing u guys are stuck with a roster that has so many holes.

[ropjhk]

Febuary will be a difficult month for them, as will the rest of January. Don't be surprised if they are only 1 or 2 games above .500 entering March.

[amcoolio]

Febuary will be a difficult month for them, as will the rest of January. Don't be surprised if they are only 1 or 2 games above .500 entering March.

They'll only do that if Dwight gets hurt. Well, if Dwight gets hurt, I think they are about as even as Miami in the southeast, so that can't happen. He is enough to keep them treading water until playoff time. They really do have 1/2/4 problems, though.

[j-ragg]

Febuary will be a difficult month for them, as will the rest of January. Don't be surprised if they are only 1 or 2 games above .500 entering March.

How do you figure that?