Trade Thread IV - Visitors, post trade ideas HERE

Post #1 » by **WizStorm** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:08 pm

Part 4 in the popular series of the "Official Washington Wizards Trade Thread". If you got a few hours to kill, here are the links to the previous episodes...
- Official Wizards Trade Thread
- Official Wizards Trade Thread: Part 2
- Official Wizards Trade Thread: Part 3

ZonkertheBrainless · Post #2 » by **ZonkertheBrainless** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:10 pm

The part iii thread is dead. Long live the thread!

FreeBalling · Post #3 » by **FreeBalling** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:46 pm

I've got some reading to do thread one started on Feb 25 2007.

Will there be a quiz?

RickRoll_inDC · Post #4 » by **RickRoll_inDC** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:23 pm

trade thread III lasted a lot longer than 1 and 2. 1 was from Feb-May. 2 from the end of May-end of July. 3 lasted all the way from the end of July until today. kinda random, but oh well

sipclip · Post #5 » by **sipclip** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:41 pm

Injured star for injured star.

Arenas
Blatche
Etan

for

Brand
Cassell

go'stags · Post #6 » by **go'stags** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:10 am

No way I'm giving up Arenas and Blatche for Brand.

Dat2U · Post #7 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:40 am

Some trades to ponder (All trades keep in mind the Wizards desire to avoid paying the luxury tax - all deals have the Wiz sending out slightly more in salary)

Wizards trade:
Darius Songaila
Nick Young
'08 1st round pick (unprotected)
Future 1st round pick (by way of Memphis)

Sonics trade:
Jeff Green
Delonte West
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Wizards trade:
Darius Songaila
Nick Young
'08 1st round pick (unprotected)
Future 1st round pick (by way of Memphis)

Bulls trade:
Joakim Noah
Chris Duhon
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Wizards trade:
Darius Songaila
Nick Young
Dominic McGuire
'08 1st round pick (unprotected)

Wolves trade:
Corey Brewer
Craig Smith
Mark Madsen
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Wizards trade:
Nick Young
Dominic McGuire

Grizz trade:
Kyle Lowry
Casey Jacobsen
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Wizards trade:
Darius Songaila
2008 2nd round pick

Hawks trade:
Tyronn Lue

Post #8 » by **miller31time** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:22 am

Simple deal: Jamison for Gasol.

Pau's value has never been lower (we would, under normal circumstances, not be able to acquire a player like him foe a player like AJ) and Antawn's has never been
higher. A young trio of Pau, Caron and Gilbert would terrorize the NBA for a LONG time.

yungal07 · Post #9 » by **yungal07** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:08 am

miller31time wrote:Simple deal: Jamison for Gasol.

Pau's value has never been lower (we would, under normal circumstances, not be able to acquire a player like him foe a player like AJ) and Antawn's has never been
higher. A young trio of Pau, Caron and Gilbert would terrorize the NBA for a LONG time.

I still don't think the Grizzlies do it straight up. They'd have to get a rebuilding piece back in my opinion.

Just to add however: Jamison is better than Gasol this year. Alot better. So it would be a downgrade on the court (and in the lockeroom) for sure. Not only that, but the Wiz face paying the LT. With all these factors considered, is it worth trading for Gasol? I dunno. That's why EG makes the big bucks.

Post #10 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:31 pm

I like what Dat's doing - basically using Young's trade value to improve the team. I think his Lowry trade makes the most sense for both teams.

yungal07 · Post #11 » by **yungal07** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:03 pm

Ruzious wrote:I like what Dat's doing - basically using Young's trade value to improve the team. I think his Lowry trade makes the most sense for both teams.

Yea I'm on board with pretty much all of those except the Tomberwolves one.

But for the most part, those are all considerable deals.

Post #12 » by **nate33** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:45 pm

Our team (with a healthy Arenas) is pretty well-balanced. We've got a nice mix of offensive and defensive bigs, and a nice mix of offensive and defensive guards. We have quality veteran leaders, and exciting young players with potential.

The way I see it, we lack one thing: a backup guard who can create his own shot and score when the offense isn't working. I think Nick Young is a perfect fit for that role. Yeah, his game is still raw, but I'm already seeing improvement with his defense and his passing.

I just don't really understand the rationale of trading him for a redundant player. When are we going to play a guy like Craig Smith? Where does Noah fit in if we still have Haywood and Blatche?

The only trades I'm particularly interested in are ones that help our salary. I wouldn't mind a trade to pick up a future PG prospect (AD isn't going to play forever), but it's not a pressing issue right now. I'm content to wait until the draft to worry about that.

Post #13 » by **LyricalRico** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:49 pm

Dat2U wrote:Wizards trade:
Nick Young
Dominic McGuire

Grizz trade:
Kyle Lowry
Casey Jacobsen

This one is even from a value perspective to both teams, especially Memphis since this gives them the freedom to move Mike Miller and avoid overpaying to keep Kinsey.

Lowry helps the Wiz a lot while Gilbert is out. But what about after that? He's nice insurance in case Gil leaves for whatever reason but if/when Gil re-signs, we'd have to look to move Daniels and I'm not sure I really want to do that. AD's great as a backup PG and a leader in the locker room.

I would consider Lowry as more of a Gilbert replacement instead of a Daniels replacement. If that makes any sense.

hands11 · Post #14 » by **hands11** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:50 pm

nate33 wrote:Our team (with a healthy Arenas) is pretty well-balanced. We've got a nice mix of offensive and defensive bigs, and a nice mix of offensive and defensive guards. We have quality veteran leaders, and exciting young players with potential.

The way I see it, we lack one thing: a backup guard who can create his own shot and score when the offense isn't working. I think Nick Young is a perfect fit for that role. Yeah, his game is still raw, but I'm already seeing improvement with his defense and his passing.

I just don't really understand the rationale of trading him for a redundant player. When are we going to play a guy like Craig Smith? Where does Noah fit in if we still have Haywood and Blatche?

The only trades I'm particularly interested in are ones that help our salary. I wouldn't mind a trade to pick up a future PG prospect (AD isn't going to play forever), but it's not a pressing issue right now. I'm content to wait until the draft to worry about that.

Agreed with a twist.

The only trades I'm interested in are ones involving Songaila and our future first for a PG to help us while AD is nicked because we have nothing behind him. GA wont be back until probably March so we are very vulnerable at PG until then. I like all the other pieces we have so I wouldn't want to move them. DMAC hasn't shown anything but he still may and he isn't worth anything and he is chep so why move him.

Songaila and a pick should be able to fetch at a min a quality 2nd PG. Even a Wilks type player helped us with his PG skills and perimeter D.

Songaila has some game and even a late first is worth something so that should be enough to offer.

If there is a chance we can make a run this year when GA returns, then we need to protect the momentum we have going until he returns. Every time AD misses a game, we have a huge fall off.

Songaila and a pick hopefully solves that while clearing some cap space. Songaila doesn't fit here next year. There just aren't enough spots on the roster moving forward. We don't need him with OP and AB, specially if we may get Etan back. He doesn't add enough unique talent.

Lets find a PG

Post #15 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:16 pm

Chris Sheridan in an article suggested the Knicks trade Zach Randolph and Malik Rose (?) for Jamison. Uhm...wtf?

ZonkertheBrainless · Post #16 » by **ZonkertheBrainless** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:24 pm

Anyone who suggests the Zards should take Zach Randolph in a trade for anyone but Etan should be shot.

no D in Hibachi · Post #17 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:27 pm

I agree with Nate and Hands. The team is really well-balanced, when healthy. They'll have multiple first round picks in the future and have many promising young players signed cheap for many years. The only trades I think the Wizards should consider would be Songaila+Mem 1st, or Etan+Mem 1st for better contracts.

EG has done a good job constructing the team and when Arenas gets back I think that they will really take off.

go'stags · Post #18 » by **go'stags** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:41 pm

I agree with Nate. Young is valuable to us right now, and will get even better.

Even though i advocated drafting a PG in the first round this upcoming year, I wouldn't trade for Lowry, not if we have to give up both Young and McGuire. I really like both of their futures.

But this is Lowry's second year. He will need a new deal at the same time Daniels' contract expires. If we draft a PG, he will be able to learn the offense for 2 years under Daniels, then we will have an ultra cheap backup PG for 2 years.

And to piggy-back on nates post even further, when would we play Noah, Smith, Brewer or Green?

The one I like most is Green, but I wouldn't give up Young for him. Plus I think in a year or two McGuire will show to be the same type of player as Green, probably as good.

sashae · Post #19 » by **sashae** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:06 am

Haha oh man... Chad Ford came up with a doozy in his Fix the Knicks article:

They may also try to entice the Wizards with a deal of Curry and Malik Rose for Antawn Jamison, whose contract comes off the books at the end of the season.

Or the Knicks could try to get Jamison for Randolph if the Wizards won't bite on Curry.

Do people watch the Wizards at all?

Post #20 » by **nate33** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:09 am

I wouldn't trade Jamison for Curry, Rose AND their lotto pick.