Andrea Bargnani has never fouled out of an NBA game

reck0n3r · Post #1 » by **reck0n3r** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:11 am

Regular season and last seasons playoffs, inclusive.

I think some people need to be reminded of that.

user name · Post #2 » by **user name** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:18 am

He doesn't play in crunch time.

Darrick Martin · Post #3 » by **Darrick Martin** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:21 am

Given more playing time, he definitely would.. Smitch wouldn't let that happen as it would be detrimental to the team

teamLeiweke · Post #4 » by **teamLeiweke** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:22 am

EXCELLENT STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im serious, why not let him just play it out until he fouls out instead of benching him as soon as he gets 2 fouls in a half?!?!?

I think its a conspiracy... Bargs is struggling, its no secret, BC says PLAY HIM, START HIM, HE NEEDS TO DEVELOP, but Sam wants to play guys that will help win and who deserve it.. so he plays Bargs and says "IF he is in FOUL trouble, there is nothing I can do."

It is his excuse for not playing Bargs.

Yes, Bargs sucks, and yes Im losing my patience, but BOSH, SAM, SOMEONE needs to find a way to get this guy his confidence back, because all I have seen all year is everyone telling the guy what he is doign wrong and beating him down mentally after anything he does.

Facts:
1) he has talent
2) he is the #1 overall draft pick
3) he is young
4) if he plays remotely close to what we think he can play, the raptors are a better team
5) bargnani, when he plays well, bring something to the raptors that no one else has the ability to do
6) the only way the raptors can compete with the elite teams in the east is if Bargnani is a factor again.

GET ER DONE!!!!!! This problem needs to be solved!!!

KRANG · Post #5 » by **KRANG** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:32 am

I'm starting to think the Smiz-itch never wanted Bargs in the 1st place.

Illuminati · Post #6 » by **Illuminati** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:32 am

I told you, play him 40 mins a game and let him foul out.

greed416 · Post #7 » by **greed416** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:33 am

wow!! Maceo Baston hasn't fouled out this year either...!!

KRANG · Post #8 » by **KRANG** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:34 am

Illuminati wrote:I told you, play him 40 mins a game and let him foul out.

Ummm, if Sam plays Bargs 40 minutes in a game, Bosh will punch him in the face.

Kordic27 · Post #9 » by **Kordic27** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:34 am

teamColangelo wrote:EXCELLENT STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im serious, why not let him just play it out until he fouls out instead of benching him as soon as he gets 2 fouls in a half?!?!?

I think its a conspiracy... Bargs is struggling, its no secret, BC says PLAY HIM, START HIM, HE NEEDS TO DEVELOP, but Sam wants to play guys that will help win and who deserve it.. so he plays Bargs and says "IF he is in FOUL trouble, there is nothing I can do."

It is his excuse for not playing Bargs.

Yes, Bargs sucks, and yes Im losing my patience, but BOSH, SAM, SOMEONE needs to find a way to get this guy his confidence back, because all I have seen all year is everyone telling the guy what he is doign wrong and beating him down mentally after anything he does.

Facts:
1) he has talent
2) he is the #1 overall draft pick
3) he is young
4) if he plays remotely close to what we think he can play, the raptors are a better team
5) bargnani, when he plays well, bring something to the raptors that no one else has the ability to do
6) the only way the raptors can compete with the elite teams in the east is if Bargnani is a factor again.

GET ER DONE!!!!!! This problem needs to be solved!!!

I think numbers 1, 3, 5, and 6 are debatable.

KRANG · Post #10 » by **KRANG** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:37 am

Bargs has to go back to the bench. He's got to EARN that starting spot. !

Illuminati · Post #11 » by **Illuminati** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:40 am

KRANG wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Ummm, if Sam plays Bargs 40 minutes in a game, Bosh will punch him in the face.

MY STOMACH HURTS! I may sig this, don't make my ulcer bigger than it already is :lol:

Bargs either produces or loses his ability to breath. He'd probably foul out before then, you have nothing to lose by doing this.

Illuminati · Post #12 » by **Illuminati** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:42 am

Kordic27 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think numbers 1, 3, 5, and 6 are debatable.

As for #5, Anthony Parkers value is higher. When Anthony Parker is clicking it seems like the whole team is.

KRANG · Post #13 » by **KRANG** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:43 am

Illuminati wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

MY STOMACH HURTS! I may sig this, don't make my ulcer bigger than it already is

Bargs either produces or loses his ability to breath. He'd probably foul out before then, you have nothing to lose by doing this.

Except a rebounding advantage.

jeffya2 · Post #14 » by **jeffya2** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:46 am

I too have wondered why he sits after 2 fouls.He never plays in the 4th quarter so accumulation is not the problem

Also I am curious why the refs keep calling such lame ticky tack fouls on Barg's. I keep replaying most of he fouls in the last 3 games & very, very few are legit. It seems that since he is big & clumsy the whistle is put in their mouths in anticipation

reck0n3r · Post #15 » by **reck0n3r** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:49 am

jeffya2 wrote:I too have wondered why he sits after 2 fouls.He never plays in the 4th quarter.

Also I am curious why the refs keep calling such lame ticky tack fouls on Barg's. I keep replaying most of he fouls in the last 3 games & very, very few are legit. It seems that since he is big & clumsy the whistle is put in their mouths in anticipation

Good to know that there's others that notice this as well.

What disturbs me even more is that I have yet to see Sam argue a foul called on bargnani, and with the amount of questionable calls against him, it really makes me wonder.

AB_21 · Post #16 » by **AB_21** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:59 am

jeffya2 wrote:I too have wondered why he sits after 2 fouls.He never plays in the 4th quarter so accumulation is not the problem

Also I am curious why the refs keep calling such lame ticky tack fouls on Barg's. I keep replaying most of he fouls in the last 3 games & very, very few are legit. It seems that since he is big & clumsy the whistle is put in their mouths in anticipation

bingo!

jaymeister15 · Post #17 » by **jaymeister15** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:02 am

What's your point?

Bargs has done nothing to deserve more playing time, and it appears Colangelo forced Sam's hand into putting him in the starting lineup. When he picks up 2 quick fouls (and plays like crap), that gives Sam a nice excuse to bench him, which, imo, helps the team.

J Dilla · Post #18 » by **J Dilla** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:23 am

I think the Raptors should move on with Bargnani and start developing Joey Graham, Jamario and Hump.

teamLeiweke · Post #19 » by **teamLeiweke** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:25 am

No one has the ability to play Center, knock down threes, and pull his defender away from Bosh so that Bosh has an open lane to drive it every time to the bucket.

That was Bargs purpose, too bad he sucks this year.. doesnt know when to help D, gives up a lane to the bucket himself, gets outrebounded, CANT BOX OUT HIS MAN.. (how hard is that?) and seems to always be in the path of where our team wants to go on offence. GET OUT OF THE WAY!

RapsVC15 · Post #20 » by **RapsVC15** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:26 am

Smitch needs to let him play through this.

2 early fouls and he doesn't see the floor until the third?