joe smith

Hoops23 · Post #21 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:34 pm

And why would the Spurs do that?

I agree that Smith is worth more than an expiring contract but if you're paying the tax and because of it you're unable to use the MLE for a free agent, isn't it better to give up Smith (whom your team sign last summer for nothing) for expiriungs? Take the case of the Suns, they gave up two 1st rounder and cash to dump Thomas to Seattle.

MGB8 · Post #22 » by **MGB8** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:25 pm

You guys have it backwards. Keeing Joe Smith HELPS the young guys because he's a good influence, he has a solid array of moves to teach, he has good experience to pass on, and he's not too expensive.

Keeping Joe Smith is very good for the development of Noah and Tyrus (and Gray). It helps, not hurts. Overplaying Joe Smith is another issue, but that's the coaching staff. Even with that, I'd rather have an overplayed Joe Smith showing the kids things in practice while doing everything the coaching staff asks of him (and smiling), than no Joe Smith and Ben Wallace being the main veteran influence on the kids.

transplant · Post #23 » by **transplant** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:55 pm

Smith is a very nice player and a steal at less than the MLE. Trading him doesn't "free-up $$" for next season unless you trade him for an expiring, and even if you trade him for an expiring, you're still probably over the cap so I'm not sure how that helps you.

If you need Smith to make a great trade happen, fine. Otherwise, I like him on the squad, though ideally he should be playing about 20mpg. I certainly don't trade him just to trade him.

Multipass · Post #24 » by **Multipass** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:19 pm

Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, and Chris Duhon to Cleveland

for

Eric Snow, Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones, and Ira Newble

Cleveland beefs up their frontcourt and adds a young pass-first point guard. Playing next to a superstar like LeBron and a legit center like Zydrunas, plus the chance to get back to the finals might just light a fire under Ben Wallace.

Bulls save money and free up playing time for Thabo, Gray, Tyrus, and Noah. Bulls probably lose more games this season, leading to a better draft pick. Eric Snow takes over Duhon's role in the short term until we can find a new back-up point guard. Donyell maybe gets spot minutes if healthy. Everybody else we get is filler which can be shopped for 2nd round picks (unlikely), bought out, used as filler in later trades, or just cut.

kyrv · Post #25 » by **kyrv** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:22 pm

JeremyB0001 wrote:The biggest reason to trade Smith is to sell high. He's playing better than he has in years so we shouldn't bank on him keeping it up. If teams are willing to give up something substantial for him I'd deal him at the deadline but if the offers are unimpressive we should keep him because he fits the team well.

Good point. Joe Smith has been playing a lot of minutes (too many for him and for our purposes in my opinion), and he's due to slow down and/or get some nagging injuries.