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Honest Question: Why did we sign Baston?

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Honest Question: Why did we sign Baston? 

Post#1 » by CalderonFTW » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:08 am

Not trying to troll or anything but I am not sure how this guy fits into our plans?

Was the AP Tel Aviv connection enough to waste a roster spot on him?
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Post#2 » by rdtx2005 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:10 am

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Post#3 » by dagger » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:10 am

Probably as insurance for Garbajosa. Fortunately, our other bigs haven't missed many games, but what if another big goes down? Who are you going to play? DMart?
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Post#4 » by CalderonFTW » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:19 am

dagger wrote:Probably as insurance for Garbajosa. Fortunately, our other bigs haven't missed many games, but what if another big goes down? Who are you going to play? DMart?


Good points.. and i can understand having "depth" concept. My next question I guess is, is he an improvement from P. Sow? or Slokar for that matter?

In the limited minutes I have seen him play he is not much of an improvement from either one of those two.

I realize that last roster spot is not that important but small simple things add up in long term.
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Post#5 » by Ackshun » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:20 am

i would have rather Uros Slokar. At least he had untapped potential. We pretty much know what we're getting from Baston. Which is worthy of a 13-15 roster spot regardless.
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Post#6 » by Bosh-Tyme » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:20 am

dagger wrote:Probably as insurance for Garbajosa. Fortunately, our other bigs haven't missed many games, but what if another big goes down? Who are you going to play? DMart?
I would much rather have re-signed Sow or Slokar atleast they had a small chance of being good
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Post#7 » by yt_boi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:20 am

I don't really see a problem with signing baston. But the problem I have is that we used our full LLE. I doubt the pacers had any interest in him, we could of just signed him for the minimum, and if they matched then who really cares.

But supposedly he's a really good practice guy. And as Dagger said, our bigs have been really good this year, it's pretty hard to find time behind, bosh, bargnani, humps and Rasho. We won't really be able to see his worth unless someone gets injured. So I'd rather not see his worth.
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Post#8 » by Quiet-Storm » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:24 am

Ackshun wrote:i would have rather Uros Slokar. At least he had untapped potential.


Im really getting sick of this word "potential"
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Post#9 » by J Dilla » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:29 am

I would've kept Slokar too, but Baston provides athleticism and experience.
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Post#10 » by TheDoctor » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:30 am

Jamario wasn't on the team, Hump was still uncertain, and we weren't sure what to expect from Joey.

And then Jamario made the team and became our athletic guy who Sam uses as a PF as times (since he's easily as long and almost as tall as Baston, and plays bigger, better and more skilled), Hump proved himself in the early going, and then of late Joey has reasserted himself as a banging short PF when we need him (usually due to foul trouble or general listless play for a stretch).

So to this point he's basically been insurance that we haven't used much at all. As long as your insurance isn't complaining or expensive, then its all good.
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Post#11 » by DIEHARD_005 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:08 am

He's still started in more games than Dmart
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Post#12 » by Ackshun » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:11 am

Quiet-Storm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Im really getting sick of this word "potential"


ok sorry.
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Post#13 » by omeloon » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:18 am

He was a decent enough guy to sign for insurance and practice reasons, but we definitely didn't need to sign him for two years, that was a waste. So Dixon and MArtin will be leaving us for Ukic and our draft pick... our roster is going to be pretty full next year without a trade or two. Delfino and Calderon should be re-signed.
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Post#14 » by ansoncarter » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:23 am

Colangelo didn't think Humphries would be this good
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Post#15 » by orangutooth » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:34 am

i suspect we signed him because he was from texas like bosh and tj and also played in europe like the rest of the team.
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Post#16 » by Double Y » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:08 am

TheDoctor wrote:Jamario wasn't on the team, Hump was still uncertain, and we weren't sure what to expect from Joey.

And then Jamario made the team and became our athletic guy who Sam uses as a PF as times (since he's easily as long and almost as tall as Baston, and plays bigger, better and more skilled), Hump proved himself in the early going, and then of late Joey has reasserted himself as a banging short PF when we need him (usually due to foul trouble or general listless play for a stretch).

So to this point he's basically been insurance that we haven't used much at all. As long as your insurance isn't complaining or expensive, then its all good.

Actually, I've been wondering the same question as the OP for the last month-and-a-half or so. I understand the point about not knowing about Moon and Hump and Joey, but I still see Baston as wasted insurance. He's not complaining, but I do think for what he has been able to bring, he's rather expensive insurance. He's making almost $2 million as your end-of-the-bench 15th guy (by minutes played).

That's at least $1 million too many.
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Post#17 » by The Letter V » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:13 am

ansoncarter wrote:Colangelo didn't think Humphries would be this good

Then why would he sign him to a 3 year extension?
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Post#18 » by gcsw » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:12 am

dagger wrote:Probably as insurance for Garbajosa. Fortunately, our other bigs haven't missed many games, but what if another big goes down? Who are you going to play? DMart?


His spot would have gone to another veteran big man whom BC should have signed for the minimum. You don't give your 15th man a $4M contract when the guy can barely play in the NBA.
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Post#19 » by Econgrad » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:08 pm

I agree with those who say that keeping Slokar at half a mil would have been a better option than Baston.
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Post#20 » by Tom Baker » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:04 pm

Econgrad wrote:I agree with those who say that keeping Slokar at half a mil would have been a better option than Baston.


When you put it that way, then I suppose I agree.

However, for insurance purposes, Baston produced more on the floor than we ever saw in Golden Time. Plus, as much as I liked Pape, he did more to make us lose (i.e. injure our own players by flailing about) than he did to make us win (i.e. by actually playing).

I can live with Baston. The only real point I agree with it that he's overpaid.
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