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Post#1 » by boricua_basket » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:24 pm

I keep hearing this morning on DP Show that the Bulls are shopping Big Ben. Is this a guy you would pick up?

I would in a heartbeat. Imagine him and D12 down low, RLew at SF, Hedo at SG, and Nelson.

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Post#2 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:27 pm

HELL NO, OVER THE HILL AND A HORRIBLE CONTRACT.
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Post#3 » by Max Power » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:32 pm

What? Ben Wallace next to Dwight would be a great security blanket for him. His Horace Grant if you will. I know Ben's contract is bad and he's not young anymore, but if he were a cheap pickup he'd be great for a year or 2, and allow Shard to do his thing from the 3 spot. For what Ben does he'd be ideal to place next to Howard. Nobody would ever drive the paint against the Magic.
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Post#4 » by theTHIEF » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:33 pm

1) You thought Shard handcuffed us financially? now you want to add Ben to the equation? holy crap our organization would have to hold up signs like the homeless do in order to get additional talent from here til 2011 "will provide a locker and parking space if you place for us"

2) Ben and D12 down low may not work for several reasons. a) Dwight can't shoot the ball well enough to drop out of the block, so he pretty much demands the paint. b)Ben can only dunk (from time to time), so if Dwight has the block locked up, where will Ben be? i'll tell you where he wont be, taking jump shots for my team...

on defense, that would probably be a wrecking crew...but no thanks...
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Post#5 » by NEM » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:36 pm

haha no...he is declining...fast
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Post#6 » by darthcheech2000 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:36 pm

Only in a buyout situation would I even consider Wallace.
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Post#7 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:48 pm

Max Power wrote:What? Ben Wallace next to Dwight would be a great security blanket for him. His Horace Grant if you will. I know Ben's contract is bad and he's not young anymore, but if he were a cheap pickup he'd be great for a year or 2, and allow Shard to do his thing from the 3 spot. For what Ben does he'd be ideal to place next to Howard. Nobody would ever drive the paint against the Magic.


Slight problem with the Ho Grant theory...BIG BEN CAN'T SHOOT!! :rofl:
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Post#8 » by MagicFan149 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:52 pm

not too mention close late game situations youd have hack a wallace and hack a howard... these two were definately not meant to play together
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Post#9 » by CourtsideTV » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:48 pm

only if he is bought out and signs 1 year deals at a time at a bargain.
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Post#10 » by Max Power » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:26 pm

Ok, guys, I admit, when I look at Ben Wallace and Dwight, I looked at it from a defensive standpoint, not offensive. My theory was that Ben would never get the ball. My bad.
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Post#11 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:38 pm

After this season, Ben is only owed $28.5 mil for 2 years.

His contract expires in 2010 - just as LeBron, Wade & Bosh become free agents

Ben plays major minutes for Chicago. Cut his minutes & he'll be more effective

Ben sucks on offense & on free throws.

Ben can rebound, block shots , catch passes & throw passes just like he has done in past.

Ben is still in great shape.

Ben is not being shopped - but he is available since the Bulls will not be major contenders this season & will prefer to play younger players

Fun Fact: Ben led the Bulls in steals last season. How many centers do that? I havent checked this season's stats.
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Post#12 » by MarleyMon81 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:45 pm

Max Power wrote:What? Ben Wallace next to Dwight would be a great security blanket for him. His Horace Grant if you will.


When we teamed Ho with Shaq that was a perfect 4-5 combo as Shaq commanded the paint while Ho was about to be the double outlet from 15-18 and routinely knock down that jumper out of Shaq doubles.

Ben basically has NO offensive game. He's not great inside or on the block and we can't even talk about outside the paint. He makes his offensive living on put backs. He and Dwight would be redundant as they are both interior strength players were as Ho and Shaq, at least offensively, meshed well as their skills sets didn't overlap.
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Post#13 » by laVal03 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:08 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:HELL NO, OVER THE HILL AND A HORRIBLE CONTRACT.
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Post#14 » by craig01 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:25 pm

Wallace is in a physical decline.

But, more importantly imo, has lost the hunger that made him so great.
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Post#15 » by oakfanintheeast » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:42 pm

why would orlando pick up one of the worst contracts in recent memory?
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Post#16 » by EasternMagic » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:54 pm

no way
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Post#17 » by drsd » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:15 pm

This is funny.
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Post#18 » by NBlue » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 pm

bulls6 wrote:After this season, Ben is only owed $28.5 mil for 2 years.




Sweet -- ONLY $14 Million a year for 4 pts and 8 rebounds a game -- where can I sign -- what a deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post#19 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:27 pm

NBlue wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Sweet -- ONLY $14 Million a year for 4 pts and 8 rebounds a game -- where can I sign -- what a deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i'm not trying to trade him - I didnt start the thread.

Wallace would almost certainly do better in a different environment - but I didnt envision Orlando as one of those environments.

if anyone gets him, it'll probably be the Lakers
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Post#20 » by Max Power » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:29 pm

MarleyMon81 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



When we teamed Ho with Shaq that was a perfect 4-5 combo as Shaq commanded the paint while Ho was about to be the double outlet from 15-18 and routinely knock down that jumper out of Shaq doubles.

Ben basically has NO offensive game. He's not great inside or on the block and we can't even talk about outside the paint. He makes his offensive living on put backs. He and Dwight would be redundant as they are both interior strength players were as Ho and Shaq, at least offensively, meshed well as their skills sets didn't overlap.


I guess you missed where I admitted I neglected to think about offensive ramifications, and was speaking from a purely defensive perspective.
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