Maggette for Tyrus

sipclip · Post #1 » by **sipclip** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:13 pm

What would you guys think of a Maggette for Tyrus, Griffin and Khryapa trade? If my clips had a chance to make the playoffs then I wouldn't even think of doing the deal but I'm now ready to rebuild.

bullzman23 · Post #2 » by **bullzman23** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:14 pm

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #3 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:17 pm

Pass.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #4 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:20 pm

The problem of course is that Maggette will opt out. I would trade that package for a similar type of player if I knew we would have that player past this season.

Jujuba69 · Post #5 » by **Jujuba69** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:20 pm

is not that bad.

Post #6 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 pm

My criteria for trading Thomas are pretty narrow:

(a) part of a package for a legitimately elite perimeter player; or

(b) part of a package for a very good, relatively young-ish, power forward or center.

Thats it. Those standards might be very high - they are very high - but they are what they are. I'm not going to support trading an elitely athletic power forward who has flashed dominance for something less than the foregoing. Not until this team gives him a real chance to develop.

If he's given his chances - fair chances - and he doesn't produce, tanks out, and has no trade value, then so be it. I'm willing to take that risk if the only short term benefit to trading him now is Corey Maggette (not a knock on Maggs).

NLK · Post #7 » by **NLK** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:30 pm

I'd do it IFF the 1st Round 2008 draft pick (unprotected) came with what you want. So I highly doubt you'd do it. So like what most have said :wave:

Bye.

Jim · Post #8 » by **Jim** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:34 pm

DuckIII wrote:My criteria for trading Thomas are pretty narrow:

(a) part of a package for a legitimately elite perimeter player; or

(b) part of a package for a very good, relatively young-ish, power forward or center.

I agree, but...

If this trade come along with another one sending Noc, Duh, Gray for a low post player, I would do it... (don't know what Memphis would ask for Gasol... but I would try to aslo keep smith if possible...)

Hinrich, Thabo, Deng, Gasol, Wallace
Thabo, Gordon, Magette, Smith, Noah

This rocks !

Eminjay7 · Post #9 » by **Eminjay7** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:42 pm

I'd never do this, because I'm not that high on Maggette and I would hate it if we again trade away a player that emerges after leaving us.

Cliff Levingston · Post #10 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:48 pm

DuckIII wrote:My criteria for trading Thomas are pretty narrow:

(a) part of a package for a legitimately elite perimeter player; or

(b) part of a package for a very good, relatively young-ish, power forward or center.

Thats it. Those standards might be very high - they are very high - but they are what they are. I'm not going to support trading an elitely athletic power forward who has flashed dominance for something less than the foregoing. Not until this team gives him a real chance to develop.

If he's given his chances - fair chances - and he doesn't produce, tanks out, and has no trade value, then so be it. I'm willing to take that risk if the only short term benefit to trading him now is Corey Maggette (not a knock on Maggs).

...and... /thread. Cliff Levingston couldn't have said it better himself.

PJ Brown · Post #11 » by **PJ Brown** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:53 pm

I'm not sure you'll get a whole lot more for Thomas, but I've never ever understood why people around here are so obsessed with Magette. You can't go a week without a Magette trade thread. He's just not that good.

Post #12 » by **Rerisen** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:57 pm

Eh no. Teh Thabo demands minutes. We would have too many guards.

Tyrus Thomas is too young yet to be traded for less than a All-Star talent, or certainly not unless its at our most needed position (post scoring).

Why would you draft a project and then trade him not far into his second season when he has hardly been given a chance at more than a cup of coffee in this league?

Post #13 » by **kulaz3000** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:01 pm

Im not sure how much Maggette is getting paid right now. But i would do a Tyrus and Noc for Maggette and Thorton. We lose alot of depth in the front court, but it gives more consistent time to our big players. Also, as much as i love Noc, we get rid of a tweener for a legit small forward who will play behind Deng..

Wingy · Post #14 » by **Wingy** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:01 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
...and... /thread. Cliff Levingston couldn't have said it better himself.

Yes siree

AAU Teammate · Post #15 » by **AAU Teammate** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:12 pm

This is at least the KIND of trade the Bulls need to make

find a team that wants to dump salary and, for god sakes, get some of the excessive deepness of the bench off to another team.

DanTown8587 · Post #16 » by **DanTown8587** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:16 pm

If we trading with the clips, just give back EB

Wingy · Post #17 » by **Wingy** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:21 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:This is at least the KIND of trade the Bulls need to make

find a team that wants to dump salary and, for god sakes, get some of the excessive deepness of the bench off to another team.

...nice concept but...this trade doesn't do that. It in fact makes it worse.

It's basically TT for Maggette straight up. So we'd still have Smith, Noc and Noah all fighting for minutes at the 4. But then we'd also have Maggette, BG, Thabo, Deng and Noc fighting for minutes at the 2/3.

jump · Post #18 » by **jump** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:19 pm

The re-emergence of Thabo as our solution at SG makes a trade for Maggette seem less necessary that it was a couple of weeks ago.

I'm not sure you'll get a whole lot more for Thomas, but I've never ever understood why people around here are so obsessed with Magette. You can't go a week without a Magette trade thread. He's just not that good.

Maggette is averaging 20 ppg and 6 rpg. Also, he has been in the NBA top ten in free throws per game for several years. His ability to drive to the hoop and either FINISH or DRAW FOWLS is something this team needs desperately. This has been covered many times around here lately. Although the Clips are now using him mostly at SF, he can and has played SG throughout his career.

Again, if Thabo can work out for us, then the Maggette idea may not be what we need. But when the general concensus recently was that Thabo was a bust, a Maggette trade seemed like a great idea.

sipclip · Post #19 » by **sipclip** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:40 pm

I didn't realize that Thabo was playing so well when I started this thread. With him now playing extremely well at sg it is pointless to add Maggs and stunt his development.

theanimal23 · Post #20 » by **theanimal23** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:46 pm

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