1/21/08 Game Thread Monday

Copperhead · Post #21 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:55 pm

Pierce and Q-Rich tossed.

Kyrama · Post #22 » by **Kyrama** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:56 pm

Crawford is going crazy with the technical fouls. Someone must've told a really funny joke on the bench.

Clincher · Post #23 » by **Clincher** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:11 pm

Here comes the Knicks annual 4th qtr run from out of nowhere..

Post #24 » by **miller31time** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:15 pm

Wiz beat the Mavs, 102-84. Big win!

IndyPacers67 · Post #25 » by **IndyPacers67** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:20 pm

Dunleavy is bending the Sixers over and giving it to them. 21 points at halftime for the balding beast of basketballing.

TheRaptor! · Post #26 » by **TheRaptor!** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:30 pm

What a freakin day for basketball.

I'ma be stuck to my computer screen lol.

Knicks - Celtics - just as i expected...
Mavs - Wiz - Damn Wiz are ahead of the raps..
Bobcat - Spurs - Just as I expected..

Watching:

Houston and Portland

Is the indy game worth watchin?

Wizards2Lottery · Post #27 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:44 pm

Beware of the Wizards.

Beat Boston twice. Beat Dallas twice. After an 0-5 start were now 22-12. To think we will only get better offensively and defensively with Gilbert replacing Antonio Daniels.

Beware Eastern Confrence.

G35 · Post #28 » by **G35** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:12 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Beware of the Wizards.

Beat Boston twice. Beat Dallas twice. After an 0-5 start were now 22-12. To think we will only get better offensively and defensively with Gilbert replacing Antonio Daniels.

Beware Eastern Confrence.

Is Gilbert really a better defender than Daniels? Is it a coincidence/better direction from the coaching staff that the defense has improved with Arenas out?

I never noticed Gilbert being that good of a defender.......

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #29 » by **Buck You** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:44 pm

Bogut dominance. 8 points 8 rebounds in the first half. Let's see if he continues his 20 and 10 trend.

CDB · Post #30 » by **CDB** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:45 pm

2 Big freethrows by Marvin Williams in OT.

Nice game between Hawks and Blazers

CDB · Post #31 » by **CDB** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:48 pm

Travis Outlaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benedict_Boozer · Post #32 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:48 pm

CDB wrote:2 Big freethrows by Marvin Williams in OT.

Nice game between Hawks and Blazers

Outlaw hits the tough 15 foot J with 1 sec left. He has made some clutch plays this year - good game

CDB · Post #33 » by **CDB** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:50 pm

Hawks are going to go for the alley

CDB · Post #34 » by **CDB** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:51 pm

Johnson misses the 3, Blazers win

Storm Surge · Post #35 » by **Storm Surge** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:24 pm

Blazers will play worse in the 2nd half of the season than 1st half

Post #36 » by **B Mac** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:28 pm

Boyz 2 Men is killing my ears. Damn, they are off.

swede · Post #37 » by **swede** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:30 pm

Storm Surge wrote:Blazers will play worse in the 2nd half of the season than 1st half

Otaaaaaaaaaaaayy

Post #38 » by **miller31time** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:31 pm

G35 wrote:Is Gilbert really a better defender than Daniels? Is it a coincidence/better direction from the coaching staff that the defense has improved with Arenas out?

I never noticed Gilbert being that good of a defender.......

Sure is. Gilbert has never been a great defender, and up till last season, he was slightly below average. In the short time he played this season, his defense looked great. He corrected nearly all of the mistakes he made earlier in his defensive career (ie: doubling down low when no double was needed / cutting down on gambling in the passing lanes, etc). Daniels, on the other hand, has always been an overrated defender. He makes the same mistakes Gilbert made last season and before. What makes people think he's an average-above average defender is the fact that he gambles a lot when it comes to taking charges. He tries to get in front of players in a way that looks like he took a charge, but 90% of the time, he's called for a blocking foul, thus hurting the team instead of playing fundamental man defense.

But let's, for a second, pretend that Daniels is a better defender than Gilbert and that Gilbert has not improved at all and is still a slightly below-average defender. Is he THAT much worse than Antonio to explain a jump from being ranked 28th in defense to 15th? Could a small difference in defense from one player to another REALLY cause THAT much of a drop? I'd argue that even if AD is a better defender than Gilbert (which he isn't), it would be impossible for the difference to be 13 spots in defensive efficiency.

Then take into account the fact that, with Arenas, we're the 3rd best offensive team in the league, couple that with the fact the Wizards are having a great defensive year (which, as I alluded to before, is the product of Randy Ayers, more PT for Brendan Haywood and an emerging role for Andray Blatche) and you have yourself a top tier team in the East when Gilbert returns.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #39 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:32 pm

G35 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Is Gilbert really a better defender than Daniels? Is it a coincidence/better direction from the coaching staff that the defense has improved with Arenas out?

I never noticed Gilbert being that good of a defender.......

Much better than Daniels. AD isn't that good of a defender. Arenas was better than him before he got injured.

Our offense is much worse than last year in terms of efficiency. We dropped from 3rd in the NBA to like 12th.

All people think is that we're better because Gilbert is gone. Its actually because we hired a very good defensive coach (Randy Ayers) and the young guys on our bench progressed and stepped it up (Blatche, Mason, Young and now even Pecherov).

Post #40 » by **miller31time** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:41 pm

Just to clarify (so people don't think I'm pulling numbers out of my ass), we were 3rd in defensive efficiency last season prior to Arenas and Butler getting injured at the end of last season (so, about 70 games through). We finished the season 5th.

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2007/