Gordon and freethrows.

[mattyj912]

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Sloth's criteria for ranking Gordon's FTA is worthless and without question tailored to inflate the quality of Ben Gordon in this area.

Snake's stats are the only ones that matter.

Its true that Snakes stats are more important than Sloths, but i think the intent of the OP was to show that gordon isnt terrible at getting to the line like everyone says he is. Snake made the point better with his stats showing gordon is mediocre. Which is a few levels above terrible.

[Dieselbound&Down]

The real question is, who is the next Bull to be obsessively overrated by sloth after Gordon is traded because he wants more money than he is worth?

too funny.

The team needs somebody else who can come in and create some fouls. With Hinrich and Deng next to him, too much pressure falls on Gordon to be the slasher and that just is not his strength. Trade for Maggette.

[BrooklynBulls]

The one point I would make is that Ben is a jump shooter and nothing more. He's an average passer at best, not a very good ball-handler, and not good at getting to the line. So what makes him think he is worth more than 5 years and $50 million?

I think its this that the most people argue about with Gordon. You see him as a jump-shooter. I see him as a jump-shooting explosive scorer. His primary skill IS shooting, but his ability to shake and drive past his defender, EVEN IF ITS FOR A CLOSER JUMPER, is extremely valuable. Even if its still not as high-percentage as a slasher, its always there. He's an offensive creator, and if he could understand how the pressure he creates affects the opponents defense, and could exploit that, he could be elite. Even as a jump shooter.

Its a shame he's a bit dumb. Its really not his skills that are lacking. His dribbling has gotten far, far better. Its fine. He gets stripped at the end of games not because he's careless, or sloppy with the ball. Its because opposing bigmen can actually afford to double him on the screen, and not just flash, they stay there and trap. EVERY elite guard in this league would make that big pay a dear price for doing so. That's Gordon's primary problem.

[Bullsville]

I think its this that the most people argue about with Gordon. You see him as a jump-shooter. I see him as a jump-shooting explosive scorer. His primary skill IS shooting, but his ability to shake and drive past his defender, EVEN IF ITS FOR A CLOSER JUMPER, is extremely valuable. Even if its still not as high-percentage as a slasher, its always there. He's an offensive creator, and if he could understand how the pressure he creates affects the opponents defense, and could exploit that, he could be elite. Even as a jump shooter.

Its a shame he's a bit dumb. Its really not his skills that are lacking. His dribbling has gotten far, far better. Its fine. He gets stripped at the end of games not because he's careless, or sloppy with the ball. Its because opposing bigmen can actually afford to double him on the screen, and not just flash, they stay there and trap. EVERY elite guard in this league would make that big pay a dear price for doing so. That's Gordon's primary problem.

+1

I used to see Gordon as a future explosive scorer, he has the skills to do so. But he doesn't do it.

I don't know if I'd use the word "dumb", but it probably fits. If he were a smarter player, he certainly could be an elite guard in the league. But he isn't, and after 3 1/2 years in the league, I don't think he's going to get that much smarter.