First off, I'm sorry if this has been discussed before but I couldn't find a thread about it in the last few pages on your forum.
As you all probably know Shawn Marion and Grant Hill have player options (see hoopshype)in their contracts which they can use to opt out of their contracts this summer, which would make them unrestricted free agents.
My question to you is: Do you think Grant Hill and/or Shawn Marion might opt out of their contract this summer, and if so why?
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GH will certainly pick his option up. If it was about the $ to him he would've taken the midlevel offers he had last summer.
Shawn's option is a different question. Before this season I would've said that he would opt out and try to get a 3 or 4 year deal somewhere else. Now I'm not so sure. As movingaz said his stats are down from previous years. He is still valueable though as a utility man and with his rebounding abilities. That being said I can't see anybody offering him anything more than $12m per. He is going to turn 30 in may so he may have 3 more years left making big time $.
My gut says that he doesn't opt out and collects his $17m next year from the Suns. PHX will probably offer him something in the neighborhood of a 3 year $38m extention and after some wrangling I would expect him to take it. He could retire a Sun and will be the teams all time leading rebounder and possibly leading scorer.
If he woud've put up another season of near 20/10 numbers I think somebody would've overpaid him. That's doesn't look to be the case now.
Shawn's option is a different question. Before this season I would've said that he would opt out and try to get a 3 or 4 year deal somewhere else. Now I'm not so sure. As movingaz said his stats are down from previous years. He is still valueable though as a utility man and with his rebounding abilities. That being said I can't see anybody offering him anything more than $12m per. He is going to turn 30 in may so he may have 3 more years left making big time $.
My gut says that he doesn't opt out and collects his $17m next year from the Suns. PHX will probably offer him something in the neighborhood of a 3 year $38m extention and after some wrangling I would expect him to take it. He could retire a Sun and will be the teams all time leading rebounder and possibly leading scorer.
If he woud've put up another season of near 20/10 numbers I think somebody would've overpaid him. That's doesn't look to be the case now.
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Hill is stayiing, and from the way Marion has played of late, he is staying as well.
I don't think his value has gone down because of his dropping stats, but rather the stats of Ben Wallace. He signed an overinflated contract as a high energy rebounder and defender with limited offensive skills. While Marion is far superior offensively than Wallace, he is similiar in his rebounding and defensive effort. Marion still has the tools to be effective for 3 more season putting up 17 points and 8-10 rebs a night, but teams aren't going to be willing to give him a 4 or 5 year deal, because of the drop off of similiar players. If he can get a 3 year, $45 million deal from some scrub team or he can stay here play out $17 million and sign a 2 or 3 year deal at $12 to $13 million per year; bottom line, if he leaves and gets lucky, he gets $45 million over 3; if he stays and plays out his contract, he gets $43 million over 3 or $53 million over 4.
I pray that he stays! If he stays he will most likely become the Suns All Time leading scorer, rebounder, and blocker. That would be pretty amazing!
I don't think his value has gone down because of his dropping stats, but rather the stats of Ben Wallace. He signed an overinflated contract as a high energy rebounder and defender with limited offensive skills. While Marion is far superior offensively than Wallace, he is similiar in his rebounding and defensive effort. Marion still has the tools to be effective for 3 more season putting up 17 points and 8-10 rebs a night, but teams aren't going to be willing to give him a 4 or 5 year deal, because of the drop off of similiar players. If he can get a 3 year, $45 million deal from some scrub team or he can stay here play out $17 million and sign a 2 or 3 year deal at $12 to $13 million per year; bottom line, if he leaves and gets lucky, he gets $45 million over 3; if he stays and plays out his contract, he gets $43 million over 3 or $53 million over 4.
I pray that he stays! If he stays he will most likely become the Suns All Time leading scorer, rebounder, and blocker. That would be pretty amazing!
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I would be stunned if GHill didn't pick up his option (unless we win the whole thing and he decides to hang up the boots).
Marion's a different kettle of fish and I think it will come down to the fact that he won't get anywhere near as much money from elsewhere so he'll take the player option.
I really think it's a $ thing with Marion while it's def not a $ thing with Hill.
Marion's a different kettle of fish and I think it will come down to the fact that he won't get anywhere near as much money from elsewhere so he'll take the player option.
I really think it's a $ thing with Marion while it's def not a $ thing with Hill.
