Chris Paul

[stevebozell]

Hell, now JACQUE VAUGHN is kicking his ass! :noway:

[Bradford]

Hell, now JACQUE VAUGHN is kicking his ass!

What a nice brick off the side of the backboard leading to a shot-clock violation by Vaughn.....

[stevebozell]

If youre celebrating a bad play by Vaughn, your argument is pretty weak.

[Malone Strong]

SteveBozo, give it a break. You're foul anti-Deron sentiment has discredited you here.....

Clown.

[stevebozell]

SteveBozo, give it a break. You're foul anti-Deron sentiment has discredited you here.....

Clown.

Get a life, Malonesdong, as well as an original thought once in a while. I said in my first post here, I love Deron. You know this, you just wanted to get your oh-so-original stevebozo line out, as if someone would think you were funny. Maybe put your picture up if you want a laugh, your posting isbnt doing the trick.

[loserX]

Seriously, ENOUGH. You both know better than to lob up the personal insults. Swap email addys and badmouth each other in person if you want, but its not welcome here. That's it for warnings as far as I'm concerned.

Let's keep the talk about basketball, please. This is a good topic and there are good, legitimate arguments to be made.

[stevebozell]

Seriously, ENOUGH. You both know better than to lob up the personal insults.

Hey, how many times can a guy get away with purposefully making fun of a name? I had to repspond sooner or later. Plus, Im taking he reported something? I didnt. Anyway, I am fine ignoring the guy, he hasnt made a decent basketball point yet, so as long as you are stopping the personal attacks, I have no other reason to respond to him.

[Malone Strong]

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Hey, how many times can a guy get away with purposefully making fun of a name? I had to repspond sooner or later. Plus, Im taking he reported something? I didnt. Anyway, I am fine ignoring the guy, he hasnt made a decent basketball point yet, so as long as you are stopping the personal attacks, I have no other reason to respond to him.

Damn do you whine about everything?

Hey Loser, I got no problems with the jabs myself, and I didnt report anything. I will try harder in the future to attack Steven's weak arguments (if any) instead of his name.

[stevebozell]

And you need a dictionary.

[loserX]

No, nobody reported anything...I just happened to be reading the thread. Really, this board needs less of the name-calling stuff in general. It's worse when guys who should know better do it.

But we all seem to be agreed...let's just move on.

[Malone Strong]

And you need a dictionary.

[Pai Gow]

I love DWILL, but CP3 is head and shoulder above Deron defensively,its not even close. And Im talking straight up man-on D, not just getting steals. He doesnt let scrubs like Rafer Alston get to the hoop at will, which unfortunately Deron does on a nightly basis. Parker will have his way as far as penetration tonight, you can bank on it. So with the offensive numbers being as close as they are, Pauls defense is what seperates the 2.

Wow, what a call..

Just kill yourself now.

[jazzfan1971]

It's funny how a 5 game win streak brings the piss and vinegar out of our posters.

Ive allready done one suspension today, maybe I'll go for the hat trick if we can't get this personal bickering under control.

[bleu]

Yeah guys seriously. We don't need this thread to get locked.

[The Sheik]

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Wow, what a call..

Just kill yourself now.

But perhaps he wasnt talking about the game...if you get my drift.

[sarah42]

i don't see how paul would play as well in the utah system. one strange play by chris and he'd be in the doghouse by sloan. paul isn't some tame dude. even though he's a great character person, something tells me he's not above helping to get a coach fired. lol.

maybe thats a good thing for all the sloan haters in utah. i'm assuming there are tons of you. i just think Williams fits carlos boozer to a tee. and i think paul fits tyson chandler and david west as well.

[stevebozell]

I never said Parker would score alot because of his penetration, it happens Vaughn did more damage inside than Parker did. But either way, if it werent for Boozer finally being a force inside, Deron would have again been exposed because their guards got into the paint at will, again.

[suckfish]

Williams is definately a better fit in Utah's offense and system. I think Jazz fans shouldn't always be trying to compare the two players as individuals but instead comparing them to the style and mold of the team.

IMO, and my opinion is from a bulls fans prospective, I think Deron is a great match for Sloan's offense. He is bigger and stronger than Paul, that allows him to post up smaller guards in the Jazz offense, and the Jazz offense is tailored to take advantage of post ups and mismatches. The high post offense features Deron cutting off that elbow pick where he can catch and score off a cut, or he can position himself in that low block looking to post up. In the first quarter against Houston Williams got two easy buckets off that high post cut, I'm not saying that Paul couldn't be as effective in this offense, just that Deron's superior height and strength makes it all that much easier finishing of those cuts that are featured so much in Utah basketball.

Paul is phenomenal, like a Steve Nash though I find him better on a longer leash. He likes to be free with the ball experimenting and probing, he would be on a tighter leash in Utah, I'm not so sure he would be quite as effective without all that freedom to create with the ball.

If I'm Utah, I'd still pick Deron Williams over Chris Paul if the draft was re-done.

[jazzfan1971]

Deron Posting up happens maybe once or twice a game.

[suckfish]

Fair point, you obviously are more knowledgeable about the Jazz than me. Still, even if he doesn't actually post up all that often, at least from what I have seen, he often scores off of easy cuts. He is a better finisher, he is stronger and he is more physical.

Paul is a finesse herky jerky type player, he finishes well but they aren't solid strong finishes. He is sneaky and creative, quite a high risk player who isn't afraid to make the high risk pass. Deron on the other hand is a safer, more sure player, he will make the good but safe play. The ball goes through Paul primarily in New Orleans, over in Utah Deron isn't the first option. Paul definately likes to have the ball in his hands playing more freelanced basketball, Deron is in a more regimented offense where the offense is executed just as it is drawn up.

Deron is the better defender, which is something a I can only guess is valued by Utah considering they aren't the best team defensively, sure Paul gets his steals but thats doesn't necessarily indicate good defense. Deron has more range, not exactly a three point specialist but he can shoot a lot better than Paul. Before the Korver signing I can only think of Okur who was a real perimeter shooting threat.

I can't help but feel that Deron is a much better fit to Sloan that Paul would be. Deron is bigger and stronger whilst Paul is quicker and more explosive, the Jazz are a better slow it down halfcourt team, the Hornets aren't a running team either, but they can certainly run the break and finish above the rim.

Obviously both teams landed 'Point Gods', both are extremely talented, I do think Deron is more successful where he is rather than he would be in New Orleans, and vice versa with Paul.