now that amir's in the rotation.....

[Kyrama]

^Hasheem Thabeet FTW!

Image if we dealt one of our starters (Rip or Tayshaun + whatever) for a high pick and got DeAndre Jordan.

[Liqourish]

^ I'd gladly settle for Jason Thompson with a low first.

[mattyj]

No, we want Nathan Jawaii with our low first...That Kid is a MONSTER

6'10, 280lbs, australian

[Master Shake]

There's a lot of bigs we could target in this draft, but none of these guys will really be ready to contribute on this team for at least 2 years. Keep developing Max and Amir, and go after somebody with the MLE that is younger, still has unfulfilled potential, but has been in the league a few years.

Guys like David Harrison, Jeff Foster, Robert Swift, Stromile Swift, Johan Petro, Patrick O'Bryant, and Mohammed Sene come to mind.

But if we do draft big in the draft, there are guys like Devon Hardin who would fit well. Remember we probably have Samb making a move on the active roster next season as well, unless we decide to move him.

[the_l_train]

david harrison has a good sense of humor. him and rasheed would be a riot. read this:

http://freedarko.blogspot.com/2005/08/d ... id_19.html

...i also like this guy named CHEICK SAMB. i wish he was on our active roster right now

[Warspite]

Never ceases to amaze me how much Pistons fans hate the guys that can play and love the ones that cant.


I dont recall ever talking about how many mins Rodman, Salley Vinnie and sure as h### never heard anyone complain how Bedford and Blanks werent getting enough mins.

The fascination with the scrubs over the stars is completely under my feet.

[Dirtgrain]

Just don't talk smack about Fennis Dembo. If we could just bring him back.

[7r5ur]

Never ceases to amaze me how much Pistons fans hate the guys that can play and love the ones that cant.

Everyone's a "Can't" play until they've stepped on the court. Tayshaun was a garbage time scrub. Chauncey was tossed around the like crazy because he "couldn't play". People don't "hate" the guys who can play and "love" the guys that "Cant". They just want to see something different, and see what these guys have.

I dont recall ever talking about how many mins Rodman, Salley Vinnie and sure as h### never heard anyone complain how Bedford and Blanks werent getting enough mins.

The fascination with the scrubs over the stars is completely under my feet.

Welcome to the age of the internet. If we didn't have Amir's, Darko's, Maxiell's, Delfino's, etc to talk about, this forum would have disappeared a long time ago. There's only so much you can say about the vets who you've seen play literally 400+ times together....

"Rip was good tonight"....

"Tayshaun is soft"....


.............


"I'm gonna go"...

[Uncle Mxy]

I dont recall ever talking about how many mins Rodman, Salley Vinnie and sure as h### never heard anyone complain how Bedford and Blanks werent getting enough mins.

In the Trader Jack era, it was rarely good to get attached to scrubs because they'd be gone before you knew 'em. I'm still amazed we went for Bedford again after his first go as a Piston. We had what turned out to be some good players as scrubs -- Ricky Pierce, Micheal Williams, Tony Campbell.

[prophet_of_rage]

Never ceases to amaze me how much Pistons fans hate the guys that can play and love the ones that cant.


I dont recall ever talking about how many mins Rodman, Salley Vinnie and sure as h### never heard anyone complain how Bedford and Blanks werent getting enough mins.

The fascination with the scrubs over the stars is completely under my feet.

It's not only the guys on our roster, but the trades I see people looking for: Gerald Green? Chris Anderson? I don't get it. Why demand to be miserable. Enjoy the happiness of having an actual GREAT team.

[Master Shake]

Nobody is calling for us to pick up Gerald Green or Chris Anderson to replace our starters... are you kidding?

Picking up guys like that are 12th man cases where its added depth, and hey, they're young, have potential, and could turn into something. So proposing a trade of Flip Murray and a 2nd rounder for Gerald Green doesn't mean we plan to start him, we're looking for people to support our "great" team.

[prophet_of_rage]

But guys like Gerald Green and Chris anderson aren't better than what we have 1-15. What does Chris Anderson do? Run around the court and rebound. We have Hermann who can do that. It's a push if he's better than Brezec. And Brezec is more dependable.

Gerald Green isn't a better scorer than Flip Murray who is only what 27-28? Gerald Green can't even get run on the Timberwolves. THE TIMBERWOLVES! And we want him to support our great team?

[mattyj]

But guys like Gerald Green and Chris anderson aren't better than what we have 1-15. What does Chris Anderson do? Run around the court and rebound. We have Hermann who can do that. It's a push if he's better than Brezec. And Brezec is more dependable.

Gerald Green isn't a better scorer than Flip Murray who is only what 27-28? Gerald Green can't even get run on the Timberwolves. THE TIMBERWOLVES! And we want him to support our great team?

ACtually, AndersEn's best ability is his shot blocking, which isnt exactly a strong suit with this team, and Herrmann? are you kidding? Hes a terrible rebounder

Herrmann has a TR% of about 10% , Andersen is about 16% not too mention Andersen BLK% is about 6% over his career, Herrmann is about .5%

[prophet_of_rage]

We have Amir Johnson who blocks a number of shots and can be an intimidator in the lane. Chris Anderson doesn't stop people from driving. And do you really want to give him so many minutes just to block shots? Improve your perimeter defence and your low post defence and you don't need shotblocking.

Chris Anderson doesn't help. Would you really sign him to a contract just for that when you've got a younger, more talented player in grooming?

[Warspite]

Its a RealGm peeve of mine that 90% of posters want to be that 35 win team with 4 starters under the age of 25 with tons of potential.

Here on the Pistons board we are always looking for the replacement of the current starters. We are jealous of the Hawks and wish we could be drafting in the top 10 and adding future HoFers and cornerstones for our future.

We never ever appreciate that we have the best starting lineup in all of basketball if not all of sports.

The Pistons have the best starting 5 and have the best bench in the NBA. Our 2nd team is as good as the TWolves and yet we think our players suck and that other players on other teams are better and would play better for us.

The reality is that Herrman, Primo, Hayes, Afflalo would be more productive on bad teams and would be players most here would covet.

If you brought in Kobe, Dirk, Wade or prime Kareem, Wilt or Shaq to the Pistons they would all look worse and would take big hits in there production.

Then most Pistons fans would want to ship them out for underperfomance.

Those players would then be much better players and Pistons fans would want to blame the coach.

Its a never ending cycle based on the "Grass is greener on the side" theory and utter ignorance of the game of basketball.

[mattyj]

We have Amir Johnson who blocks a number of shots and can be an intimidator in the lane. Chris Anderson doesn't stop people from driving. And do you really want to give him so many minutes just to block shots? Improve your perimeter defence and your low post defence and you don't need shotblocking.

Chris Anderson doesn't help. Would you really sign him to a contract just for that when you've got a younger, more talented player in grooming?

Since you didnt get the point in my last post, his name is CHRIS ANDERSEN...And you didnt compare him to AMir Johnson, would i want to sign Andersen if it meant less minutes for AMir? no...You compared him to Walter Herrmann and claimed they were equal rebounders, which is bollocks...I'd prefer Andersen in our rotation over Herrmann any day of the week and twice on sundays[/u]

[theBigLip]

Here on the Pistons board we are always looking for the replacement of the current starters. We are jealous of the Hawks and wish we could be drafting in the top 10 and adding future HoFers and cornerstones for our future.

We never ever appreciate that we have the best starting lineup in all of basketball if not all of sports.

I'm so guilty

But it is fun to make trade proposals just to exercise that grey matter once in awhile. But I do appreciate our team and will be freaking out during the ECF when our same old team is going at it against the Cavs or the Celts and hopefully this year we make it to the Finals.

[theBigLip]

Back to the original point of this thread, I don't think Amir is going to get much of a whiff of playoff PT - it will be Sheed, Dice and Max unless one of them gets in foul trouble (or ejected - imagine that).

[prophet_of_rage]

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Since you didnt get the point in my last post, his name is CHRIS ANDERSEN...And you didnt compare him to AMir Johnson, would i want to sign Andersen if it meant less minutes for AMir? no...You compared him to Walter Herrmann and claimed they were equal rebounders, which is bollocks...I'd prefer Andersen in our rotation over Herrmann any day of the week and twice on sundays[/u]

Andersen ... anderson ... whatever his name is he doesn't do anything to help the team in the minutes he'd be given for the price it would cost to get him. I didn't say they were equal rebounders I said they would do the same job. What would you really expect out of Chris Anderson? Sit at the end of the bench. Come in for mop up minutes rebound and defend. You have Hermann who can do that job just fine. Hell, even Brezec can do that job. Andersen isn't better than those two and they're 14 and 15 on the depth chart. Why take on Andersen who's cap hit is worse than theirs?

[theBigLip]

I'd rather giver Amir the chance than to give minutes to Anderson and I'm pretty sure Joe feels the same. Still, I don't see a lot of playoff minutes available to Amir.