Kidd to Orlando (NJ would do this trade would YOU)

leo6287 · Post #1 » by **leo6287** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:30 am

Orlando Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players

Darrell Armstrong 6-1 PG from Fayetteville State
2.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 10.8 minutes

Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova
5.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.7 minutes

Jason Kidd 6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes

Outgoing Players

Jameer Nelson 6-0 PG from St. Joseph's
11.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 5.8 apg in 29.6 minutes

J.J. Redick 6-5 SG from Duke
3.7 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.3 minutes

Keyon Dooling 6-3 PG from Missouri
8.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 18.5 minutes

Pat Garrity 6-9 PF from Notre Dame
2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.6 minutes

Tony Battie 6-11 PF / C from Texas Tech
No games yet played in 2007/08

2008 Unprotected 1st
2010 Lottery Protected 1st

3 Mill Cash towards Garrity BuyOut

Why for NJ: Well there rebuilding and the get a Returning Starting PG in Nelson Millions in Expiring Contract Sharpshooting SG JJ Redick and Coach Player in Battie will teach the Puppy's (S.Williams/Boone/Krisic?) to do the little things to win Plus 2008 1st and Lottery Protected 1st 2010 The 3 Mill in Cash goes towards Garrity Buyout

Why for Orl: The get Kidd(Hugh Contract) who will be grreat with Howard and Co. Magic give 2 1st 2008 and 2010 it hurts the Future but lets hope Kidd resign at MLE after 08-09 I think he will complete to Contender Level

Line ups

Magic

C Howard/Foyle/Augustine
PF Lewis/Cook/Allen
SF Turk/Lewis
SG Bogans/Mo
PG Kidd/Arroyo/DA

Nets

PG Nelson/Dooling/Williams*
SG Carter/JJ
SF Jefferson/Wright
PF Boone/Kristic
C Collins/Battie/Malgore

leo6287 · Post #2 » by **leo6287** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:50 am

NJ Likes this 1 even better

Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -13.9 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
Incoming Players

Darrell Armstrong 6-1 PG from Fayetteville State
2.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 10.8 minutes

Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova
5.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.7 minutes

Jason Kidd 6-4 PG from California
11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 10.4 apg in 37.3 minutes

Outgoing Players

James Augustine 6-10 PF from Illinois
1.4 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 5.9 minutes

Jameer Nelson 6-0 PG from St. Joseph's
11.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 5.8 apg in 29.6 minutes

J.J. Redick 6-5 SG from Duke
3.7 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.3 minutes

Keyon Dooling 6-3 PG from Missouri
8.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 18.5 minutes

Pat Garrity 6-9 PF from Notre Dame Waived
2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.6 minutes

Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International
6.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.7 apg in 20.6 minutes

2008 unprotected 1st
2010 lottery protected

CAsh toward garritys buyout

Id do the 2nd more than the 1st an NJ would 2 what do you guys think???

jonskilly · Post #3 » by **jonskilly** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:54 am

I wouldn't feel comfortable trading Jameer, Dooling AND Arroyo. Who knows if Kidd would re-sign with the Magic? DA is not a starting PG. They don't want Jameer.

TNMagicFan · Post #4 » by **TNMagicFan** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:56 am

We can't trade our 1st round pick for this year. We traded last year's and you can't trade consecutive years

leo6287 · Post #5 » by **leo6287** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:01 am

d12fan wrote:We can't trade our 1st round pick for this year. We traded last year's and you can't trade consecutive years

Trust ME we can trade the 08 Pick Look in the CBA forum

leo6287 · Post #6 » by **leo6287** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:03 am

jonskilly wrote:I wouldn't feel comfortable trading Jameer, Dooling AND Arroyo. Who knows if Kidd would re-sign with the Magic? DA is not a starting PG. They don't want Jameer.

Kidd stated 3 week ago that he think Orlando is a FA wet dream and player would want to play with D12

Also I would trade Nelson if we got Kidd and Yes NJ would do it

Happyfoosball · Post #7 » by **Happyfoosball** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:11 am

No. I wouldn't. Not for someone his age.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #8 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:11 am

Replace Dooling with Arroyo in the first trade, while also taking out the 1st round pick in 2008 and you got a deal.

Happyfoosball · Post #9 » by **Happyfoosball** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:11 am

No. I wouldn't. Not for someone his age.

lovehoops01 · Post #10 » by **lovehoops01** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:25 am

Oh really, Leo? You been on the phone with Rod Thorn and Kiki Vanderweghe?

I think what you mean is the Nets fans who post on the Real GM board might make the deal.

Post #11 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:13 am

lovehoops01 wrote:Oh really, Leo? You been on the phone with Rod Thorn and Kiki Vanderweghe?

I think what you mean is the Nets fans who post on the Real GM board might make the deal.

Shh.. some people like being pocket GM's! :lol:

cmor42180 · Post #12 » by **cmor42180** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:31 pm

dwight wouldnt approve of this one, jameer is his boy...and i would rather keep jameer here to learn from kidd

Potterman · Post #13 » by **Potterman** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 pm

Wrong no way no thanks. I have no idea why NJ would do this unless they had it in there heart to trade there big three as well. This is just silly.

MrOrlando · Post #14 » by **MrOrlando** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:24 pm

Uhh ..why trade Jameer? Insert Battie, JJ and all of our expirings for Kidd that would work.

I would trade this years pick, however I would NOT trade next years. The chance of Miami being mediocre to bad is looking good. We have a good chance to stealing away another draft pick. If only Otis could have let US swap picks this year, we would be golden.

mhectorgato · Post #15 » by **mhectorgato** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:18 pm

Here's my response:

:noway:

DaveMustaine · Post #16 » by **DaveMustaine** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:07 pm

DFlight wrote:Uhh ..why trade Jameer? Insert Battie, JJ and all of our expirings for Kidd that would work.

I would trade this years pick, however I would NOT trade next years. The chance of Miami being mediocre to bad is looking good. We have a good chance to stealing away another draft pick. If only Otis could have let US swap picks this year, we would be golden.

That would be up to Miami, not Orlando, so why would Miami want to do that?

surflawyer · Post #17 » by **surflawyer** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:48 pm

DFlight wrote:Uhh ..why trade Jameer? Insert Battie, JJ and all of our expirings for Kidd that would work.

I would trade this years pick, however I would NOT trade next years. The chance of Miami being mediocre to bad is looking good. We have a good chance to stealing away another draft pick. If only Otis could have let US swap picks this year, we would be golden.

I think you have the SVG pick issue wrong. I may be incorrect but I believe that Miami has the option to trade first rounders with us this year. Since we will probably have a better record than them they will not exercise that option. If they do not ecercise the option this year they have the option next year. They do not have to swap with us. If they chose not to swap with us the next year they get our second done deal.

Someone please clarify if Im wrong. Ive been meaning to get this straight for some time but just havent had the opportunity and it didnt seem important enough for its own thread.

Thanks

Al n' Perk No Layups! · Post #18 » by **Al n' Perk No Layups!** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:52 pm

NJ would never do that. They can get much better for Kidd. Kidd is a top three point guard in the league. Sane people don't trade superstars for crap, the Magic don't have the pieces to get Kidd unless they are willing to trade Hedo.

Max Power · Post #19 » by **Max Power** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:03 pm

I would neither of these trades, both leave us with 35 year old Jason Kidd and 41 year old Darrell Armstrong as our point guards. I think not. Kidd would be great, Jersey can take Arroyo, Redick, Bogans, Garrity a future first and the rights to Amway after we move for all I care, but Jameer and Dooling need to be here to back Kidd up.

NEM · Post #20 » by **NEM** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:35 pm

where do i sign?