Chris Bosh: Best scoring big in the NBA?

Ill Mago · Post #41 » by **Ill Mago** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:19 pm

bosh is the best big when it comes to getting to the line, and he's also the big with the best mid range game.

BD006 · Post #42 » by **BD006** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:24 pm

Hendrix wrote:He's probably up there with Dirk for the ability to create for himself and score. Amare depends a lot on Nash. Really don't think KG is as good of a scorer as Bosh. He is the far better defender, passer, and rebounder though.

Agree with pretty much everything here.

I-AM-A-BEAST · Post #43 » by **I-AM-A-BEAST** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:54 pm

The_Hater wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Good list. It's pretty tough leaving Duncan out of the top 5 because of the Spurs decided to force feed him like most of those teams do, obviously his offensive stats would go up considerably. Instead they pace his minutes and his touches so that he doesn't wear down before the playoffs.

It's also funny to see Shaq's name not there but I agree with you. Just 2 years ago he would have been a clear #1 and he probably still belonged on the short list last season.

Yeah I questioned whether to put TD in the top five or not. I think he's capable of holding down number 1 honestly, but like you said, the spurs save him for the playoffs, so it hurts his volume numbers and overall production.

3inakey · Post #44 » by **3inakey** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:57 pm

His early injuries slowed him down, otherwise I don't think there would be a doubt at least in the East. Dominant scorers always get to the line at a better average than others at their position. KG isn't as consistently good as Bosh offensively (settle down people). D12 is insane close to the basket, but he's not what I consider a scorer, not enough weapons yet.

In the West, Dirk, Stat, Boozer, Duncan, Brand in no particular order are all excellent scoring bigmen. If Carmelo counts as a big man, then he's at the top.

I reserve any real judgment until we see his offensive output during the playoffs this year.

Tommy Gun · Post #45 » by **Tommy Gun** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:09 pm

Whats really amazing is that Bosh is 6th in the league in PER and has taken a huge step up from last year in that department. Most of us thought he had relatively peaked offensively last year. It's all the more impressive given his injury struggles and horrible numbers during the first 4 weeks.

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2008/jh_ALL_PER.htm

3inakey · Post #46 » by **3inakey** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:40 pm

Tommy Gun wrote:Whats really amazing is that Bosh is 6th in the league in PER and has taken a huge step up from last year in that department. Most of us thought he had relatively peaked offensively last year. It's all the more impressive given his injury struggles and horrible numbers during the first 4 weeks.

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2008/jh_ALL_PER.htm

Some thoughts about Bosh. He improves something every season. He is still not in his prime. He's a geek or a nerd in the best sense of the words, he just also happens to be a very good basketball player. I thought his offensive max was KG if we were lucky, apparently I was wrong.

Given how he's playing right now (and assuming this is his new level when healthy), one more consistent weapon on this team and I don't think 25+ ppg is out of the realm of possibility. I never expected to see this many 30+ point games out of him.

silverhill27 · Post #47 » by **silverhill27** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:48 pm

What's really impressing me right now is Bosh's new found post game. I think he has at least two or three go to moves that he can rely on on a consistent basis. If Bosh can add maybe 2 moves each offseason, then he can be utterly unstoppable.

Post #48 » by **UTMCretin** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Mascot wrote:1) KG
2) Dwight
3) Bosh
4) anyone besdies Dirk

each team has say 4 bigs at least, 30 teams

4x30 = 120 bigs

120) Dirk

i loved dirk about 4-5 years ago, but now hes just overpaid, he didnt deserve mvp last year, Josh Howard is the better of the two.

Give up now.

CreaM · Post #49 » by **CreaM** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:49 pm

I think it is a tie with Him(when healthy), Amare(when healthy), and Dirk.

Pubert · Post #50 » by **Pubert** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:49 pm

The list for better scorers then Bosh go on and on.
I'm a fan of Bosh but he will never be the best scorer.

I'll just throw out a few names: KG, Dirk, Amare, Yao, Duncan, Boozer.

Bosh has a lot of heart and he definitely can score but will never be the best.

_venom_ · Post #51 » by **_venom_** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:50 pm

Bosh is definitely in the mix at the top.

1) Amare- Part of me believes that the reason he shoots such a great percentage is because he gets so many easy buckets from Nash. But the guy can still dominate inside with his athleticism and he can get to the line.

2) Boozer- Runs the pick and roll better than anyone in the NBA (inlcuding Bosh). His jumper is just as good as Bosh and his post moves are better.

3) Dirk- More versatile in that he can score in a variety of ways while still shooting a good percentage.

4) Bosh- His quickness gives him a huge advantage over most players and he makes a living off the FT line.

5) Howard- Has an ever improving inside game but he still needs to develop a jumper and work on his free throw shooting to move up the list. He has the potential to be #1 for sure though.

NEXT FEW: Yao Ming, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Al Jefferson, Pau Gasol

_venom_ · Post #52 » by **_venom_** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:51 pm

Pubert wrote:The list for better scorers then Bosh go on and on.
I'm a fan of Bosh but he will never be the best scorer.

I'll just throw out a few names: KOBE, Lebron, KG, Dirk, Amare, T-Mac, Yao, Duncan. I would even name Gilbert before Bosh.

Bosh has a lot of heart and he definitely can score but will never be the best.

The title of the thread is best scoring BIG in the NBA not all players...

Pubert · Post #53 » by **Pubert** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:55 pm

_venom_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The title of the thread is best scoring BIG in the NBA not all players...

Thanks I already corrected my post.

D.Brasco · Post #54 » by **D.Brasco** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:57 pm

I would put yao above bosh. He's averaging roughly about the same amount of points but he actually has a dominant post game.

3inakey · Post #55 » by **3inakey** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:02 pm

Pubert wrote:The list for better scorers then Bosh go on and on.
I'm a fan of Bosh but he will never be the best scorer.

I'll just throw out a few names: KG, Dirk, Amare, Yao, Duncan, Boozer.

Bosh has a lot of heart and he definitely can score but will never be the best.

KG is not a better scorer than Bosh. Those other guys, he's clearly in the conversation. Dirk, if he hasn't been tragically damaged by that travesty last season is still the best pure scorer of the bunch.

_venom_ · Post #56 » by **_venom_** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:12 pm

D.Brasco wrote:I would put yao above bosh. He's averaging roughly about the same amount of points but he actually has a dominant post game.

I don't think Ming has the endurance to be better than Bosh offensively. He has a better post game for sure and he draws fouls at a similar rate while making them at a slightly better rate but I don't think Ming could consistently be relied upon to score like Bosh. Ming is just so big that it takes more effort for him to run up and down the floor and he can't just be told to score on every possession like Bosh has to.

inrapscity · Post #57 » by **inrapscity** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:02 pm

KG's ahead of Bosh. Howard is almost above Bosh already without really being developed. Amare is better than Bosh.

blastttOFF · Post #58 » by **blastttOFF** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:27 pm

bargnani will be better than all of them.

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