Official Jason Kidd Thread

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[J Rob]

If Phil Jackson is willing to give Farmar and Turiaf more minutes, and they keep coming through and continue to develop, it would indeed be really difficult to deal Jordan.

Yet, if we continue to bring Farmar off the bench and marginalize his role, I think it's hard to justify not dealing him for Kidd. If we're not going to allow him to make a larger impact, then might as well get a player Phil respects enough. Kidd, over 35 minutes per game, will impact our team much more than the 20 minutes Farmar's getting.

Perhaps before trading Farmar, we should audition him as our starting point guard. Maybe that's our answer to a more effective offense.

I agree with you J-Rob, we should start Farmar and Vujacic, but also Turiaf.

I want to see our best lineup on the floor for the majority of the minutes. Maybe that's all that's needed to start winning again.

I think it's hard to argue that Farmar, Sasha, Kobe, Odom, and Turiaf is our best five against most lineups. Perhaps starting would help their consistency, which is exactly what our team needs.

I couldn't agree more. That lineup basically played the last 6 minutes of the game tonight and really turned an average performance into a good win.

[Mamba Venom]

Farmar Ariza & Brown + 1st for Kidd?

Kidd is getting close to having a Shaq season. I think that might be overpaying Lakers basically have to win it next year. After that Kidd wont be as good as Farmar

[DoctaJ]

Farmar Ariza & Brown + 1st for Kidd?

Kidd is getting close to having a Shaq season. I think that might be overpaying Lakers basically have to win it next year. After that Kidd wont be as good as Farmar

I definitely think if we're getting Kidd, Trevor has to stay.

I want to see those alley-oops!

[crazyeights]

Actually Lamar got killed by Dirk - 4 points, 2 rebounds?

But that's irrelevant, NJ would primarily want Farmar, and there's little chance the Lakers would throw Odom into the deal as well.

As it stands, no, we're not a better team with Farmar than Kidd. It's only if Farmar's role expands and he develops further.

Our PG play is not just fine, offensively, they generally look for their own shots first instead of making plays. Defensively, both Farmar and Fish are a bit small, and there are times when they are both gravely outmatched.

In terms of the Nets' problems, that's their problems. Not ours. Kidd is not a good shooter, no. He's never been, even when he got the MVP, even when he got his team to the Finals. But he's a playmaker. When you have both Kobe and Bynum on the same team, Kidd doesn't need to be a shooter. He'll just do what he has for his career, get quality shots for his teammates.

Miles these posts comparing Farmar and Kidd's impact only span through this season though.

Yes, we make the trade now and we're contenders, but Kidd's impact is soon going to diminish and Farmar will just turning into a very legit starter.

Right now, when healthy, we're contenders without Kidd, and we also aren't damaging our future, but investing in it.

I think it makes more business sense to hold onto Farmar while we have Bynum. They could potentially have very fruitful careers together for the next 15 years. Why break that up for maybe 2 shots at the title?

I'm just saying, look at the Heat. They mortgaged their future on Shaq and one title. Riley sold his soul to the devil and now they're paying for it.

Kobe isn't going to be around forever. I think we could still win now and win later. It's the strategy that the Lakers chose when they had Kobe and Shaq, and now Kobe and Bynum. It's past, present, and future all together. The team needs to keep evolving, keep developing.

If we trade Farmar for Kidd, we've got two chances. Then Bynum will turn into a beast, and Kobe will be entering his twilight years, Kidd into retirement, so would that be enough? Beast Bynum and older Kobe?

I don't think we're making any changes. We've seen this page in the Laker playbook the last 10 years, and they screwed up during the Shaq years, letting the team get way too old. I think we're going to see this young team stick together for a while.

--By the way you bring up the point of Fisher and Farmar being outmatched defensively, are you're referring to size?

If so, Kidd would be a good addition.

But who are the PGs in the West on contenders? Paul, Williams, Parker, Harris, Nash? With the exception of Williams their greatest strength isn't size, but quickness.

You want an older Jason Kidd guarding these guys in the playoffs? It just seems like more of the same, getting torched by quickness.

IMO it doesn't seem to solve our problems.

Also you make it seem like a negative that Farmar and Fisher aren't playmakers, but you know that's not necessary in the triangle.

And as you've pointed out before, Farmar can create, but they've asked him to be a spot-up shooter. Tonight against the Knicks Farmar had 9 assists in 26 minutes.

Hopefully this is evidence of Phil's expanding Farmar's role from just three-point sniper. He has the ability to be a play maker, the ball just isn't in his hands in a time to make plays.

Because as you also take great efforts in pointing out, Kobe is setting up the team very well. So how do you expect them to create when Kobe is facilitating the offense anyway? And Kobe is obviously proficient in doing that job in the triangle, that's how we won three rings.

IMO that's Kobe's most efficient role. If we had Kidd, he'd be much more of an off the ball sort of scorer, and that's not utilizing the sort of attention he gets from a defense. If Kidd's on the floor, that's just one more player who can't knock down a jumper.

He just doesn't fit the offense, or our future.

They are brining up Farmar slowly, why? Because they're planning on him being our perennial starting PG. If they were eager to trade him, they'd be eager to bring him up.

Instead they're investing in him. I think that's a pretty good indication of where they're leaning.

Yes, I would love to have Jason Kidd on our team. But the cost of Farmar I don't think is a good bet on the future.

[milesfides]

Miles these posts comparing Farmar and Kidd's impact only span through this season though.

Yes, we make the trade now and we're contenders, but Kidd's impact is soon going to diminish and Farmar will just turning into a very legit starter.

Right now, when healthy, we're contenders without Kidd, and we also aren't damaging our future, but investing in it.

Yes, but we haven't been healthy. And, unless we're actually contending for the title, no, I don't think that makes us contenders. Bynum injured his kneecap. It was also reported that Bynum has a history of knee problems, that he's struggled with this in the past. What happens when Bynum, God forbid, suffers a career ending injury? It's happened. Greg Oden is out before even playing his first NBA game. After half a season, we're ready to build around Bynum and Farmar instead of 10+ seasons of elite basketball from Kobe?

I think it makes more business sense to hold onto Farmar while we have Bynum. They could potentially have very fruitful careers together for the next 15 years. Why break that up for maybe 2 shots at the title?

What happens if Bynum isn't ready, and/or we get bounced out of the 1st round again? What happens if Kobe ops out? Then maybe we get NO shots at the title.

I'm just saying, look at the Heat. They mortgaged their future on Shaq and one title. Riley sold his soul to the devil and now they're paying for it.

That's a bit dramatic. Adande even said the trade was worth it for Miami, despite the troubles they're having now. Second, Shaq was already in decline when we traded him, that's why everybody generally understood the trade. Kobe's still at his prime. Bynum, even at this young age, is capable of being a force in the middle. Is Farmar even a starter? Trading Farmar isn't selling the hopes and dreams of the franchise.

Kobe isn't going to be around forever. I think we could still win now and win later. It's the strategy that the Lakers chose when they had Kobe and Shaq, and now Kobe and Bynum. It's past, present, and future all together. The team needs to keep evolving, keep developing.

Yes, and part of that evolution could be Hall-of-Famer Jason Kidd, who's still routinely putting up triple doubles, and showed what kind of impact he could still have surrounded by competitive teammates. We didn't win championships with just Kobe and Shaq. We also won with veterans such as Ron Harper, Rick Fox, Robert Horry, etc. If you look back at championship teams, they were all generally older and had more experience: Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Heat.

If we trade Farmar for Kidd, we've got two chances. Then Bynum will turn into a beast, and Kobe will be entering his twilight years, Kidd into retirement, so would that be enough? Beast Bynum and older Kobe?

Where are you coming up with two chances? Stockton played at a high level at 41 years old. Kidd is turning 35 in a couple months. And in two years, Kobe's entering his twilight years? He'll be 31. Break out the wheelchair for him then?

I don't think we're making any changes. We've seen this page in the Laker playbook the last 10 years, and they screwed up during the Shaq years, letting the team get way too old. I think we're going to see this young team stick together for a while.

Screwed up during the Shaq years? We won championships with that old team.

--By the way you bring up the point of Fisher and Farmar being outmatched defensively, are you're referring to size?

But who are the PGs in the West on contenders? Paul, Williams, Parker, Harris, Nash? With the exception of Williams their greatest strength isn't size, but quickness.

You want an older Jason Kidd guarding these guys in the playoffs? It just seems like more of the same, getting torched by quickness.

Yes, and Farmar got torched by that quickness as well. I'm not knocking him for that. Nobody can stop those quick guards. It's done by committee and especially a defensive big. The problem is Farmar doesn't have the size to trap, switch, and recover, which is something the Lakers and particularly Phil Jackson likes doing. Thing about Farmar is that he also doesn't have the strength either, so he gets backed down.

Also you make it seem like a negative that Farmar and Fisher aren't playmakers, but you know that's not necessary in the triangle.

That's one of the biggest misconceptions about the triangle that I've tried again and again to fight against. The triangle is SUPPOSED to be run by playmakers. In fact, it's supposed to make EVERY player a potential playmaker.

And as you've pointed out before, Farmar can create, but they've asked him to be a spot-up shooter. Tonight against the Knicks Farmar had 9 assists in 26 minutes.

Very nice. Can he do that every night? So far, the answer is no. Odom once scored 30 points. Can he do that every night? He had 4 points last week.

Hopefully this is evidence of Phil's expanding Farmar's role from just three-point sniper. He has the ability to be a play maker, the ball just isn't in his hands in a time to make plays.

Actually it is, it's just that Farmar looks to score first. That was partly by design, but also it plays to Farmar's strengths. The guy just hasn't been a standout playmaker for us. Not last year, not this year.

Because as you also take great efforts in pointing out, Kobe is setting up the team very well. So how do you expect them to create when Kobe is facilitating the offense anyway? And Kobe is obviously proficient in doing that job in the triangle, that's how we won three rings.

Except during that time, we had one of the most dominant post players, if not the MOST dominant post scorer in NBA history. It made sense for Kobe to facilitate, because Shaq was unstoppable in the post and dropped 30 every game.

It's no secret Kobe is regarded as the league's best scorer. That's the role he should be playing, that's the role Phil promised him when he returned. That's the role that Phil tried to set up for Kobe, only to have Lamar Odom fail as the facilitator. Kobe is our facilitator out of default and necessity for our young and inexperienced team.

But make no mistake, it comes at a cost; he's sacrificing his game and more importantly, the potential for our team to use him at the Jordan position. Having the best scorer in the league trying to set up Kwame Brown, Luke Walton, and Lamar Odom is one of the most underreported tragedies in the NBA news.

IMO that's Kobe's most efficient role.[.quote]

Except historically, Kobe's most efficient AND productive role is at SF, at the wing, not at guard.

If we had Kidd, he'd be much more of an off the ball sort of scorer, and that's not utilizing the sort of attention he gets from a defense. If Kidd's on the floor, that's just one more player who can't knock down a jumper.

That's just fiction. Kidd creates easy baskets for his teammates. He's made a career out of it. We saw it on Team USA. We saw what a backcourt of Kobe and Kidd could do on both ends of the floor. The knock on Kidd's jumper is nonsense when he's playing with Kobe and Bynum.

He just doesn't fit the offense, or our future.

Dennis Rodman didn't fit the triangle offense either, but he had a big time talent that helped the Bulls win championships.

They are brining up Farmar slowly, why? Because they're planning on him being our perennial starting PG. If they were eager to trade him, they'd be eager to bring him up.

Or it could be that Fisher is playing career ball, is one of the leaders on our team, and that Phil has a history of relying on veterans rather than young players. If we use your logic, then why is Fisher getting the starting nod over Farmar? Are we showcasing Fisher? No.

Instead they're investing in him. I think that's a pretty good indication of where they're leaning.

Considering how we've invested in guys like Radmanovic, Walton, even Smush Parker, I wouldn't be too sure about what management is thinking, or take for granted the wisdom of all their decisions.

Yes, I would love to have Jason Kidd on our team. But the cost of Farmar I don't think is a good bet on the future.

It depends on what you think our future is. If you want to assemble an above average team for awhile, then sure. If we want to possibly create a dynasty for the next 5 years, then no, we take Kidd.

Winning championships is extremely difficult. It's almost always accomplished by hall-of-famers, all-stars, experienced veterans. That's just history.

I'm not ruling out the possibility of our winning a championship with the current roster. Far from it. Like I said earlier, I would start Farmar before the trade deadline to see where he's at, what kind of player he can be. He seems to be chomping at the bit. Let's get a better read of him as a player, since I think he's already outplaying Derek Fisher.

Still, if we had to make a decision today, I think passing on Kidd for Farmar's potential would be a tragic missed opportunity. We were the best team in the West for perhaps 2 days. Let's not let that get to our heads.

After all, Boston easily beat us twice, when our team was at full strength.

Should we wait until KG retires, is that when we're going to make our move? Surely after 5 years the Pistons will be too old, and so will the Spurs.

Why not wait until Chris Paul retires as well?

It's a loser's mentality, when we have Kobe Bryant on our team, to cheat the moment and pretend we have better opportunities in the future.

Our time to win is now.

[semi-sentient]

When in need of size, go out and get a PG.

[tranjSAIC]

Ariza-I am just pretending on this Phil was a good judge of talent

Off Topic...

Magic fan here, I think its pretty interesting that you guys value him so much but he doesn't get that many minutes. We Magic fans were just like that as well, and I recall NY fans loved him too. Why do you think he doesn't get as many minutes as fans would like to see? I wonder if he is lazy in practice or something.

[incontrol__]

Off Topic...

Magic fan here, I think its pretty interesting that you guys value him so much but he doesn't get that many minutes. We Magic fans were just like that as well, and I recall NY fans loved him too. Why do you think he doesn't get as many minutes as fans would like to see? I wonder if he is lazy in practice or something.

He was pretty consistently getting 20-25 mpg before he got injured. So he was getting about what he should've gotten...

[Joe Kleazy]

Miles is killin em with the knowledge here folks.



I think seeing LA at the #1 spot has blinded us from our true goals. Kobe still hasn't taken back his trade options, after all the hoopla we have confirmed our intentions to keep bynum. NOW we are debating our possible aquisition over moving odom or farmar.

When there was true drama it was whether to keep kobe and bynum together and I never recall ANY other player falling into that discussion. Up until now we never had anything of interest to make the moves we needed and now we may. Dont let unrealistic predictions and PER statistics cloud our chances of truley improving this team.

I agree we should not move both lamar and jordan together for kidd but regardless of the worries about kidd shooting the 3ball he brings so much more to the table. While we have made great strides in our PG play from our smush days what more could you ask with adding JKidd. The man defends(both spots) at a higher level than all of our other points, has the size and respect of phil, and a triple-double threat EVERY night.

No other player outside of kobe on our roster would garner the attention and respect of the defense that kidd would. We do a good job at times of running our offense with mediocre passers and frankly kidd would make the "O" elite.

IF anything we should be trying to make buss keep his word and pay for a championship team. We would be keeping a few 3ball shooters in fish, kobe, luke ( ), sasha, and Depending on the trade maybe vlad if some others needed to go from this group. Kidd would set any of these guys up to make us all forget what we would lose from moving farmar.

Do I even need to specify how what odom brings to the table could be matched by kidd as far as playmaking and rebouding. The only thing I feel is that we HAVE TO GET A BIG in return since kwame is going regardless.


We are starting to forget how deep the west is nowadays. Think more of how much more experience is needed to win a ring than having upside and potential for most of your roster. People always quote having "talent for the next 10yrs"..........well EVERY team will have talent for this timespan and only ONE Team wins each year. Look at dallas last year and how they seemed destined to make up for their loss to MIA and they were smashed out of the blue. Nothing is promised in this league so the only thing you can do is put the BEST pieces in place to be successful and in this case it is Kidd.


Obviously there is a talented guard in every NBA draft, college, and HS. We have a great chance to find one when Kidd and kobe are finished( even in FA). That will be a definate. It could be said that there is a Talented one on each team in the league now but HOF is another story. Pairing Jkidd and KOBE give us a HOF backcourt.

We feel that we have the one thing that only a few teams have in a extremely talented Big and as long as we keep him, finding pieces to add to him in the future will not be difficult. You forget that for every big from Mikan to Kareem to shaq to bynum there has always been a talented guard to pair with them EVERY TIME(critt?). We truley have the chance to be a Win Now/Later team but we are not there just yet. Mitch has done better than expected but just through plaiying it safe. One Chance on a HOF'er can change alot.


After SA finishes their run I see no team in this league that is built for a dynasty due to $$$$$$ all of the players the money they want, chemistry issues and just a overall different type of thinking in today's league. It will be a chance for new teams to win from time to time and each championship will be appreciated much more. Some teams still wont cut it and I dont see two teams winning 8/10 rings anymore. Every shot at a ring should be cherished.

[incontrol__]

I'm pretty much repeating what Miles, E11, etc have all said.. but..

Just think about this..

Kidd and Kobe. Best backcourt in the league defensively (and offensively).

With Bynum (our 'defensive anchor') up front, and Ariza at SF.

How is that not amazing defensively? Able to defend PG's, SG's, SF's, PF's and C's extremely well.

On offense, Kidd would take the initating duties off Kobe, and Kobe would be alot more of a "striker".

People complained earlier in the season about Bynum "not getting enough touches", him "not getting enough touches" had alot to do us not having fantastic post entry passers.. Kidd is great at getting the ball to his big men.

I wouldn't give up LO if we couldn't get a PF back.

I would do Kwame-Farmar-Vlad in an instant though.. We'd still have Critt, Turiaf, Bynum and Ariza for the future. That's still a really good core, but we improve our chances of winning titles in the next few years by a ton.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.. I doubt we could get Kidd for Kwame-Farmar-Vlad anyway.

[Joe Kleazy]

Trade posted on the Milwakee board:


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Bucks trade: Mo Williams, Charlie Villaneuva, Dan Gadzuric
Bucks receive: Lamar Odom

Nets trade: Jason Kidd
Nets receive: Mo Williams, Charlie Villanueva, Kwame Brown

Lakers trade: Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown
Lakers receive: Jason Kidd, Dan Gadzuric




I think this should fit what alot of us want in keeping farmar and adding kidd and a big. Maybe we sweeten the deal adding a guard/pick to either team to make it stick.

[incontrol__]

Nah, Gadzuric's contract is horrible, goes into 2010, and he's also useless. Absolutely useles. Worse than Kwame.

[BallAboveAll]

I mean Farmar can play but I would deal him for Kidd. Kidd won't fall off the map completely like Shaq. Kidd's game doesn't rely on athleticism at all. He's a great passer who seems to make his team better around him wherever he goes. He would get Lamar so many easy baskets and the same for Turiaf. I think it's a no brainer. We instantly get better and are a quality team without Bynum for now.

Plus he's a rebounding guard it gets no better than Jason Kidd. He won't have to carry the load as much either. Since Lamar and Kobe can also bring the ball up. The only thing he can't do is shoot. But he can sure pass it to someone who can.

[B-Scott]

First of all, Odom never held Dirk to 4 points and 2 rebounds. Never. If anything, we're better off putting Ariza on Dirk, like Golden State put Barnes on Dirk. Dirk has trouble with long quick guard-forwards, and this goes back to Tracy McGrady's defense on Dirk a few years ago.

Second, I can play fantasy basketball too. Kobe gets double-teamed, kicks it out to Kidd, who alley-oops to Bynum - DUNK! Or pass back to Kobe for THREE! Wanna play this game all night?

It's simple, Derek Fisher was always an inadequate point guard for us, even when we were winning championships. He was mostly a backup, and there's a good reason why we went and got Gary Payton. Better defender, better playmaker.

Again, whatever weakness Kidd has in his perimeter shooting, he more than makes up for his ability to create easy opportunities for his teammates. Also, Kidd doesn't take many perimeter shots, and his low field goal percentage is due to his taking three-pointers, which he doesn't make at a league-leading clip, but his perimeter efg% is .440. Tony Parker's is .406. Hinrich is at .429. Baron Davis is also at .429.

Bottom line? Jason Kidd's shooting isn't all that bad for a point guard. His percentage looks bad because he doesn't drive a lot, that's not his game. He's a floor general, and that's the genius of Jason Kidd.

Its not about fantasy basketball. Its about turning on the TV and watching the New Jersey Nets and observing there weakness in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and this season. They are a terrible halfcourt team and teams pack in there defense and leave Jason Kidd wide open.

In the playoffs it comes down to who executes the best in halfcourt sets. Those Jason Kidd fastbreaks and alleyoops to Jefferson and Carter look great during the regular season,but when thats taken away,teams stack up on Carter and Jefferson and let Kidd shoot.

The pass to Bynum for the alleyoop won't be open when teams make the necessary adjustment.

1. Kidd's defender cheats off of him and sags inside the paint.

2. If Bynum sets the screen and rolls,there is no reason for the defender to come out hard on Kidd. Just go under the screen and have your big man stay with Bynum. You dont need your bigman to come out hard with Kidd from the perimiter. He can't shoot

3. Lakers go to Bynum in the post. Kidd's man cheats down low to double on Bynum who kicks to Kidd and the results are brick after brick.

4. Kobe attacks the basket. Kidd's man cheats over to double on Kobe and leaves Kidd wide open.


Yes Kidd is a better overall player then Fisher and Farmar, but they are better fits because they can simply knock down the open 3 out of the double team. Being a hall of famer has nothing to do with chemistry. If you replaced John Paxon with Kidd in 1991,in my opinion the Bulls would be easier to defend because now you can double up on MJ. Paxon drilled multiple wide open jumpers in Games 3,4 and 5 of that Lakers vs Bulls series. Simply catch and shoot

[Joe Kleazy]

Mil- out: Mo Williams, Villanueva
In: Odom, Sasha, 1st

LAL- out: Odom, Sasha, Brown
In: Kidd, Magloire

NJ- out: Kidd, Magloire
In: Brown, Mo Williams, Villanueva




How about this? Same results better big only magloire is a one year rental.

[Joe Kleazy]

Scott its hard to side with you due to your constant praise of odom in the wrong situations. Bynum will learn to face doubles at some point and kobe has most of his career. To be honest those are the last two I worry about in a kidd addition. Its how much better he makes every other player on the roster.

Kidd can step a few feet in and hit a midrange two if he is getting sagged off of that much. Also regadless we will still have a few 3ball shooters left after the trade out of all these guys since we dont know who NJ would be looking for.

Fish
KOBE
Sasha
Vlad
Luke
Farmar

I'm sure that we wont have to trade ALL of our 3 point threats to make this trade. Also it dosent have to be our only trade, since we can add cheap specialist to our new core once we drop Mbenga and maybe Karl.

[J Rob]

PER WIRETAP:

The Lakers are not going to pursue Jason Kidd

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50598/20080130/lakers_not_planning_to_enter_kidd_talks/

Maybe its for the best...Thorn's price always seemed so steep in any Lakers conversations.

The fact that he's 34 almost never seemed to enter his mind.

[LLcoleJ]

First of all, Odom never held Dirk to 4 points and 2 rebounds. Never. If anything, we're better off putting Ariza on Dirk, like Golden State put Barnes on Dirk. Dirk has trouble with long quick guard-forwards, and this goes back to Tracy McGrady's defense on Dirk a few years ago.

Second, I can play fantasy basketball too. Kobe gets double-teamed, kicks it out to Kidd, who alley-oops to Bynum - DUNK! Or pass back to Kobe for THREE! Wanna play this game all night?

It's simple, Derek Fisher was always an inadequate point guard for us, even when we were winning championships. He was mostly a backup, and there's a good reason why we went and got Gary Payton. Better defender, better playmaker.

Again, whatever weakness Kidd has in his perimeter shooting, he more than makes up for his ability to create easy opportunities for his teammates. Also, Kidd doesn't take many perimeter shots, and his low field goal percentage is due to his taking three-pointers, which he doesn't make at a league-leading clip, but his perimeter efg% is .440. Tony Parker's is .406. Hinrich is at .429. Baron Davis is also at .429.

Bottom line? Jason Kidd's shooting isn't all that bad for a point guard. His percentage looks bad because he doesn't drive a lot, that's not his game. He's a floor general, and that's the genius of Jason Kidd.

Its not about fantasy basketball. Its about turning on the TV and watching the New Jersey Nets and observing there weakness in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and this season. They are a terrible halfcourt team and teams pack in there defense and leave Jason Kidd wide open.

In the playoffs it comes down to who executes the best in halfcourt sets. Those Jason Kidd fastbreaks and alleyoops to Jefferson and Carter look great during the regular season,but when thats taken away,teams stack up on Carter and Jefferson and let Kidd shoot.

The pass to Bynum for the alleyoop won't be open when teams make the necessary adjustment.

1. Kidd's defender cheats off of him and sags inside the paint.

2. If Bynum sets the screen and rolls,there is no reason for the defender to come out hard on Kidd. Just go under the screen and have your big man stay with Bynum. You dont need your bigman to come out hard with Kidd from the perimiter. He can't shoot

3. Lakers go to Bynum in the post. Kidd's man cheats down low to double on Bynum who kicks to Kidd and the results are brick after brick.

4. Kobe attacks the basket. Kidd's man cheats over to double on Kobe and leaves Kidd wide open.


Yes Kidd is a better overall player then Fisher and Farmar, but they are better fits because they can simply knock down the open 3 out of the double team. Being a hall of famer has nothing to do with chemistry. If you replaced John Paxon with Kidd in 1991,in my opinion the Bulls would be easier to defend because now you can double up on MJ. Paxon drilled multiple wide open jumpers in Games 3,4 and 5 of that Lakers vs Bulls series. Simply catch and shoot

you should be an NBA scout

[Joe Kleazy]

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