PG: Raptors Lose in D.C.

[inrapscity]

we F'in need some rebounding. Get Evans, get Wilcox, get whoever. As long as we have rebounding. Too many times we get outrebounded by like 20 (i dunno the actual number but it's got to be up there).

[Spragga]

I really hope BC is planning on bringing delfino back. Terrible shot selection and hes an overated defender.

I was really dissapointed in Joses defense in the last 2 minutes of the 4th and his pathetic attempt to fight through a screen that let RMJ hit a 3 in OT.

Bargs shot is just awful right now.

[supersub15]

My 7 cents:
1. Bargnani's rotations are just horrible. No other word can describe it. On one instance, he went and doubled Jose's guy ON THE PERIMETER and left Songaila wide open for his only 2 pts of the game.

2. Everybody seems to have forgotten about the 8 missed FTs. If Calderon makes that one miss, we win the game in regulation.

3. Stevenson hit some 3s with a hand in his face. Dude is a career .340 3-pt shooter.

4. A small lineup is good when you want to come back, and it worked. But why were we playing small for most of the overtime?

5. The turning point of the game in my mind is the non-called foul by Jamison on Delfino. He hacked him pretty good and the ref was 3 feet away, yet refused to call it because it would have sent Jamison to the bench with his 4th foul. Disgusting.

6. There were other fouls and flops, especially the so-called block by Blatche on Bosh. 3 players hacked Bosh on that play in overtime. No call.

7. Why don't we play zone? We tried extensively only once and it worked miracles. The Washington zone was killing us in the third.

[supersub15]

I was really dissapointed in Joses defense in the last 2 minutes of the 4th and his pathetic attempt to fight through a screen that let RMJ hit a 3 in OT.

As Leo explained in the broadcast, it was Hump's responsibility to close out on Mason.

And on both Daniels' drives, Jose gave him the baseline, and in both instances the help was late.

[Spragga]

there was one play there in the 4th with 54 seconds left that I really missed Tj. We were down by three and Jamison turned the ball over and we had a 4 on 3 play. Calderon had the ball and Kapono was trailing behind him on the right side and Jose didnt even notice. He ended up pulling out but he did find Hump for the easy 2. But tj always knows where Kapono is gonna be on the fast break. Kapono would have gotten a wide open 3.

[Spragga]

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As Leo explained in the broadcast, it was Hump's responsibility to close out on Mason.

And on both Daniels' drives, Jose gave him the baseline, and in both instances the help was late.

On both of those plays with daniels Jose wasnt even looking at him he was looking for his help defenders. He was playing so far away he couldnt even get his hand up. Jose needs to keep his eye on his man and have faith in his help.

[kleatius_01]

Bargnani looked lost out there tonight, but I don't get why ppl are bashing his rebounding.

PER40 pace:

Offensive: 5
Total: 15

I just don't understand why he can no longer shoot. Dude is just plain struggling.

[miruss2001]

^ Agreed, he's been abysmal though I'd but the responsibility for the loss more on AP's shoulders.

[kyrils]

You give Humphries more than 14 mins a game and you're gonna regret doing it. As his minutes increase, so does his confidence and along with that comes his ego. He'll start chuckin it like he's bein paid franchise money and you're gonna wish he was nailed to the bench again.

I guess the 8/9 from the field shows he chucks too much .

That is 91% from the field.


I don't think today your argument is strong or reasoned.

[WaltFrazier]

My 7 cents:
2. Everybody seems to have forgotten about the 8 missed FTs. If Calderon makes that one miss, we win the game in regulation.

You can't really say that. If the Raps had had one more point, the Wizards would have played things differently. You wouldn't necessarily get to the point of AP's shot if you were down 2 instead of 3.

[doctaJ_92]

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I guess the 8/9 from the field shows he chucks too much .

That is 91% from the field.


I don't think today your argument is strong or reasoned.

He didnt box out anyone, like the rest of our team. His shooting is nice but his defence(not getting up on Mason and Stevenson off screens) and lack of boxing out hurt us bigtime, same with Bosh.

[Raptors90102]

there was one play there in the 4th with 54 seconds left that I really missed Tj. We were down by three and Jamison turned the ball over and we had a 4 on 3 play. Calderon had the ball and Kapono was trailing behind him on the right side and Jose didnt even notice. He ended up pulling out but he did find Hump for the easy 2. But tj always knows where Kapono is gonna be on the fast break. Kapono would have gotten a wide open 3.

lol.. I can bet that TJ would have taken it all the way to the hoop only to put up a lame ass attempt at a layup only to fail at it and turning the ball over.. Jose went for the high precentage shot with the Hump dunk. Thats smart basketball..

[Shaazzam]

lol.. I can bet that TJ would have taken it all the way to the hoop only to put up a lame ass attempt at a layup only to fail at it and turning the ball over.. Jose went for the high precentage shot with the Hump dunk. Thats smart basketball..

I understand your point, but TJ did have a radar for Kapwno when he was playing. I'm not going to debate that play, but in regards to combinations on the floor, I feel TJ is a better PG for Kapwno's game.

Would that lead to more W's? Who knows. But I think Kapwno is really missing TJ.

[RapsBulls4evr]

I don't recall us winning a game after a 3-4+ days rest so far. Very disappointed though.

[B-Ball Freak]

lol, I was cracking up while reading this entire thread, first I thought this was a game thread that had been changed into a raps lost today thread only to realize this is separate. I heard about you raptors posting rapidly abilities. Funny pictures of deshawn. Poppa smurf got a bet going on with gooden, apparently they're going into overtime with the beard thing

Anyway I like the raps and you guys have played us close, I remember that lucky shot with ruffing (who we couldnt dump fast enough) throwing that ball up like that. I really like calderon. Arenas before the start of the season mentioned Calderon and said he liked his game. He has defensive issues doesnt he? And I think deshawn was forcing him left which apparently he can't finish with so thats going to be a factor next game. Deshawn also is a good defender, who can play the point, who also shoots and drives well nowadays, so you guys calling him a scrub is kinda funny. Roger Mason being a scrub? maybe, we kinda thought so too but he's a friend of a friend and the story is Rogers the best shooter he knows. And andray? Andray has potential, you guys saw that today. How about Antwan, antwan is a 20/10 guy and your team has rebounding issues. The only team I think that can outrebound us is cleveland.

So forget all this talk about this team. I just don't think you guys should underestimate us and call out a 20 point defeat or say how you are soo much better than us last year. We were first in the east at all star break. We have a record thats close to yours without our best player. Our defense is better, we got your old shooting coach Hopla who I really like and did a good job in Toronto. All in all don't cockily call out 20 point defeats just because we are missing two all stars, we still have one more left. If you go to the Boston boards they were acting the same way after we beat them saying how they were going to crush us, then we beat them again. So even if you guys win the next game I've seen what I need to see for the playoffs. Your guards have defensive issues. Your two best players ( I assume calderon and Bosh) favor moving in a certain direction, Playoff time deshawn gaurds calderon and Arenas plays your other guard. you don't have good rebounders and now we are more capable of throwing andray Blatche at Bosh at Jamison at moon and Haywood at Bargnani or whoever you play there. The wizards at full strength with the addition of caron, Arenas and Etan are a cause for concern for anyone. I think our biggest threat is cleveland. You guys are too soft to beat us in a series and the win last year was plain dumb luck

I'll come back to eat my words after the next game. Bottom line is you guys know you have cause for concern. You wouldnt go around declaring confidently how you are going to whoop a wizards squad one month from now. We are a top four team in the east
Detroit,Boston, Cleveland, Washington
I actually hope we somehow play you guys in the playoffs

I hate to say it but this guy has a point, at full strength, even with TJ back Wiz beats us in a seven game series, 4-2...if caron is back for tonights game I have little confidence in the raptors winning, they are just too soft, too passive on the boards for the wizards, and I have seen enough to say that the Raps arent even top five in the east...it goes Boston/Detroit (they are interchangeable), Orlando, Cleveland, then Washington...the point I am trying to make is the Raptors are a soft overrated team with a lot of major flaws. They are a hot/cold team and you do not know which team shows up consistently at games, not to mention they play down or up to their opponents, overall they have dissappointed alot of fans losing so many close games due to rebounding, rare crunch time TO's, and trying to play catch up with little time left, and that Cleveland game still hurts lol.

[3inakey]

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I hate to say it but this guy has a point, at full strength, even with TJ back Wiz beats us in a seven game series, 4-2...if caron is back for tonights game I have little confidence in the raptors winning, they are just too soft, too passive on the boards for the wizards, and I have seen enough to say that the Raps arent even top five in the east...it goes Boston/Detroit (they are interchangeable), Orlando, Cleveland, then Washington...the point I am trying to make is the Raptors are a soft overrated team with a lot of major flaws. They are a hot/cold team and you do not know which team shows up consistently at games, not to mention they play down or up to their opponents, overall they have dissappointed alot of fans losing so many close games due to rebounding, rare crunch time TO's, and trying to play catch up with little time left, and that Cleveland game still hurts lol.

TJ is clearly a pointguard that Washington has always had issues with. I'm not conceding that 4-2 seven game series by any means. That said, we are on the same tier as Washington and have been for 2 years. I'd call it a friendly rivalry as there's no bad blood, and there have been some really exciting/tense/anxious games between us. I believe Toronto can be the better team, but it's by no means a fact. I think homecourt advantage gives us this win and I think we split the series for the year.

[GhostsOfGil]

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TJ is clearly a pointguard that Washington has always had issues with. I'm not conceding that 4-2 seven game series by any means. That said, we are on the same tier as Washington and have been for 2 years. I'd call it a friendly rivalry as there's no bad blood, and there have been some really exciting/tense/anxious games between us. I believe Toronto can be the better team, but it's by no means a fact. I think homecourt advantage gives us this win and I think we split the series for the year.

great post.
from a wizards fan i wanna say gg and gl tonite. i would hardly call this game a fluke but i can understand that it was a disappointing loss. dont underestimate our bench tho. blatche at his best is far better then wat u have seen last nite. mason has been hitting big shots over the last 2 months since he has been given the minutes so this was not a one game thing. well gl guys, i now understand y there is all this talk about calderon getting all star consideration.

o ps dont hate on ds cuz of his off court antics, u think hes the only unfaithful guy in the nba?