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Post#1 » by magic1fan » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:11 pm

do you gus think kobe has left? In top notch i mean how many years can he help bynum and the rest of the youngsters contend?
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Post#2 » by That Nicka » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:33 pm

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Post#3 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:25 pm

8-10 years. he can always help at a top notch level even if it is as a role player ala Bruce Bowen. Kobe ain't Shaq, he will keep going well into his 30's just like Bowen. his role might change, but not his impact to the point where it wont be top notch.
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Post#4 » by magic1fan » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:51 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:8-10 years. he can always help at a top notch level even if it is as a role player ala Bruce Bowen. Kobe ain't Shaq, he will keep going well into his 30's just like Bowen. his role might change, but not his impact to the point where it wont be top notch.



wow you really think he has that many years left?
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Post#5 » by snaquille oatmeal » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:00 pm

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wow you really think he has that many years left?
like I said his role will change. he will not be the number 1 guy in the team, or eventually even the number 2 or 3 guy in the team, however, any role he plays with however few minutes he plays or if he is comming off the bench, his impact will be top notch.
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Post#6 » by donte124 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:33 pm

I would say at least 5yrs. :nod:
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Post#7 » by incontrol__ » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:37 pm

3-4 at this sorta level, and then he'll start to decline a little, IMO.

He'll probably retire at 35/36, he probably won't stay around too long after he starts to decline.
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Post#8 » by Danny Darko » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:41 pm

about 4 I'd say. I don't think he'll bow out gracefully. I think he'll either pull a Jordan and semi retire once or twice or he'll go play in Italy when he starts to decline for real.
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Post#9 » by djericho » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:57 pm

depends on your definition of Top notch


top notch where he can go off on any given night for 40+? 3-4 yrs
Be a facilitator and help others get the ball and hit open shots, and defend? 8-10 yrs
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Post#10 » by chefy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:56 pm

proly same with mj 6-7 more years
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Post#11 » by TommyTheCat » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:26 pm

3-5 at peak level and then he can be a great contributor as the #2 or #3 guy for another 3.

so 6-8 as a big part of the core to the next lakers dynasty


that is of course if the egos of kobe and buss allow this to happen
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Post#12 » by CX44 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:45 pm

4-6yrs barring injury at his current level but that also depends on Bynums development. If Bynum continues to develop and there is no reason to believe he won't, then Kobe could play another 8-10yrs at a high level because he will not have to deal with the demands of having to win every game because Bynum will shoulder some of the load.
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Post#13 » by dockingsched » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:52 pm

being the 2nd option to bynum in a couple of years is going to help extend his career.
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Post#14 » by ChocolateThundr » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:02 pm

Kobe is a little lke Kidd, implied from the past 5 or so games, he can play well hes like wine
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Post#15 » by djericho » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:18 pm

Kobe doesn't necessarily have to attack the basket as much as the years go by. his game is going to evolve some more.

Bynum will develop into a presence in the middle commanding the double team. The up and coming players like Farmar and Crittenton who can slash to the basket. It's going to be interesting to see how and if we'll be able to keep this young core together with free agency $$$ luring them away.

I see Kobe developing into a Reggie Miller type player on offense. Being able to run through picks or setting up for an open jumper. On defense, as long as he can move laterally he can contribute a la bruce bowen. He has to learn to stop cheating on his man tho.... lol
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Post#16 » by fareweatherfan » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:51 pm

Kobe has yet to enter his prime. No, I'm not crazy, I truely believe it. Let me explain.

Like many of the games greatest players, Kobe has relied too heavily on his physical abilities and too little on his mental abilities. His immaturity, imho, has been his greatest weakness, on (and perhaps off, but I wont get into that) the court. Usually, when a player can compete at the highest level just by doing what comes naturally to him, he is incapable of realizing that doing less may just result in doing more. That is where age comes in, once the player's physical abilities decrease (usually due to age, and in some cases due to less serious injuries), they begin to realize the importance of some of the more nuanced aspects of the game. Couple this realization with slightly decreased (but still far superior to most) physical abilities, and you get a player in his prime, all other things being equal.

Kobe's best years are ahead of him. He may not win a scoring title, but he will win MVP's, Chips, and the respect of all basketball fans.

Or at least I hope so... :pray:

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