Al Thornton left off All-Star Rookie Challenge team

Balls · Post #1 » by **Balls** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:47 pm

what were they thinking? :banghead:

EvadedHavoc · Post #2 » by **EvadedHavoc** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:53 pm

Guess he posted that 30 point game a lil too late? :dontknow:

Raptors90102 · Post #3 » by **Raptors90102** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:54 pm

No worries. In the long run, Thornton and Horford will prove to be the BEST players of this draft class. Nopes, Oden and Durant will not be as good as these two guys. Guaranteed.

High 5 · Post #4 » by **High 5** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:00 pm

He must have been pissed last night. He was just tossing the ball at the rim and it was going in. Too bad it had to come at the expense of the Hawks but he's definitely going to be a player in this league. He had the game saving block on top of it.

raps4life~ · Post #5 » by **raps4life~** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 pm

High 5 wrote:He must have been pissed last night. He was just tossing the ball at the rim and it was going in. Too bad it had to come at the expense of the Hawks but he's definitely going to be a player in this league. He had the game saving block on top of it.

he sure is

:rofl:

High 5 · Post #6 » by **High 5** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:09 pm

raps4life~ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

he sure is

Never heard that before?

Cliff Levingston · Post #7 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:18 pm

Noah was left off to, and he's had the highest PER among rookies for the majority of the year.

gonnadunkonU · Post #8 » by **gonnadunkonU** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:38 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Noah was left off to, and he's had the highest PER among rookies for the majority of the year.

Maybe so but he's only averaging 5 points and 4 boards.

Serpo · Post #9 » by **Serpo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:42 pm

Raptors90102 wrote:No worries. In the long run, Thornton and Horford will prove to be the BEST players of this draft class. Nopes, Oden and Durant will not be as good as these two guys. Guaranteed.

He's already 24 , i don't see him getting much better then he is right now.

I personally think they should have left Navarro and Scola out . I know they're good players but come on, these guys are no real rookies.

In fact they're veterans , they just haven't seen NBA floor before this season.

Moon is a different story. He's the same age but he hasn't nearly as much experience as the other two.

Serge28 · Post #10 » by **Serge28** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:32 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Noah was left off to, and he's had the highest PER among rookies for the majority of the year.

Yet another reason why PER is a **** stat.

Post #11 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:35 pm

Serpo wrote:He's already 24 , i don't see him getting much better then he is right now.

I personally think they should have left Navarro and Scola out . I know they're good players but come , these guys are no real rookies.

In fact they're veterans , they just haven't seen NBA floor before this season.

Moon is a different story. He's the same age but he's hasn't nearly as much experience as the other two.

Thornton really only started playing basketball once he got to Florida State, if anything he is one of the most inexperienced players in the league. So his potential is still as high as any 20 year old.

AbdicatedReign · Post #12 » by **AbdicatedReign** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:37 pm

Thornton should have made it over Jeff Green, in my opinion

NetsForce · Post #13 » by **NetsForce** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:40 pm

RealGM. The only place where 1 game makes a player.

AbdicatedReign · Post #14 » by **AbdicatedReign** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:52 am

It's more than one game. He's averaging 13.2 PPG 3.4 RPG & 1.7 APG on 49.6% shooting in January. Green is averaging 7.7 PPG 3.1 RPG & 1.5 APG on 38.3% shooting. He should be on the team.

Post #15 » by **CBS7** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:12 am

I wanted to see Tyrus Thomas on the sophmore team. He didn't deserve it though thanks to the boneheadedness of our staff. I just wanted to see him get a piece of the action, he'd make the no-defense dunkfest more exciting.

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #16 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:53 am

NetsForce wrote:RealGM. The only place where 1 game makes a player.

Most of these games from 'said players' happen against the Kings :rofl:

Cliff Levingston · Post #17 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:19 pm

gonnadunkonU wrote:Maybe so but he's only averaging 5 points and 4 boards.

Care of:

and

Sebastian · Post #18 » by **Sebastian** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:28 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Care of:

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QFT.

He's averaging 7.2 PPG (46% FG) 8.7 RPG, and 1 SPG in 24 MPG over the last 10 games. He's produced whenever he's been given the opportunity. His production per-minute this year is remarkably similar to Horford's, and yet Al is often regarded as the future star and Noah the future bust.

To further my case, Noah has a higher PER, a better offensive rating, a slightly better defensive rating, a better assist%, a better steal%, and a slightly better block%. Horford has a whopping 1% higher TS%. Both are very, very good rebounders, Al being better on the defensive boards and Noah better on the offensive glass. Noah has put up these kinds of numbers in both limited and extended playing time, so the argument that he couldn't play at this rate given big minutes probably isn't an accurate one.

I'm not going to say that Noah will be the better player over the long-term (I believe Horford has a higher ceiling) but I do think Noah is being short-changed a little. He's been arguably as good as any rookie big man, except for maybe Sean Williams, who I think has a slight edge over every rookie at this point.

amcoolio · Post #19 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:04 pm

According to TrueHoop Thornton is one of the worst players getting minutes in basketball next to Bargnani, Malik Rose, Malik Allen, Jason Collins, Jarron Collins, Boris Diaw, and others.

http://www.wagesofwins.com/AllPlayersMid0708.html

Relientk101 · Post #20 » by **Relientk101** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:10 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Noah was left off to, and he's had the highest PER among rookies for the majority of the year.

haha Noah?