Jose Calderon putting up historic % right now.

[EH15]

Kamla said Rick Barry did it too.

[Schad]

Kamla said Rick Barry did it too.

Kamla would be wrong, very wrong; Rick Barry played only one season in the NBA during the era of the three point line, and it was his last...he was nowhere near those heights by that stage of his career.

[asif9t9]

Honestly, this Jose thing is really scaring me. I was looking at CB and Jose on the bench yesterday and they were talking about they are our leaders. Jose has become a LEADER on our team. This guy, who went from being scrub, to best backup in the league, to now a guy who people (well, Chuck) mention as an all-star possibility.

I'm not talking about a TJ vs Jose thing. This is more serious than that. Fact is, Jose looks more like the longterm starting PG than TJ. Forget about who's better. Quite simply, TJ can't play any better than this, but TJ comes with the injury risk (tho we were told he was never going to be injured again, yet he's been injured for so long and we don't even know what's wrong).

So, with all that said, there's no doubt Jose is getting major offers this offseason. He's not keeping himself a secret anymore. We all know TJ won't be happy as a backup. Yet, he's not really tradeable right now. Ideally, we keep them both. But how much would that cost. And does anyone think TJ will stay on the bench?

I have no idea what BC's going to do, but boy I'm glad I'm not him.

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I have no idea what BC's going to do, but boy I'm glad I'm not him.

Predicting the internal Forderon dynamic is dicey. Ford wants a long career and the injury risk has compromised this, so he may be more sanguine about starting. Jose plays for Spain each year, and not playing 40 minutes a game has to appeal to him. And Jose isn't stupid. Manu Ginobili is a huge paid talent who comes off the bench because his team needs him in that role and his ego can handle it. Jose seems like the type whose ego can handle it.

As for BC, situations like this are an opportunity.

[asif9t9]

You know, I've always been a guy to say Jose wouldn't mind coming off the bench. That's not even the point anymore. The fact is, Jose is playing like he should be the starter. It would be in the coach's best interest to start Jose. It would be like Sam doing the Bargnani thing with his PG's. He'd be starting TJ, but with a short leash. Makes no sense.

I never in my wildest dreams thought Jose could stay so consistent. It's crazy how money his open J has become. The guy can't beat anyone one on one. He always needs a screen. But he gets it and uses it. Such a simplified game. And throw in all the fundamentals like low turnovers, high FG and FT %.

Coming into this year, TJ's goal was to become an all-star. But for him to do it, it was going to be about flash and dash. Make highlight reel plays to get noticed. Especially game winning shots if he had the chance. Hey, I thought he could do it, but the injury stopped him.

Now, here comes Jose, just playing a simple game, and people are ranking him with the top PG's in the game. During a long year, you need solid play from starters and backups. It'd be great if TJ could be our backup. It's be better if TJ somehow outplayed Jose to become a starter. But that's next to impossible Jose has left no room for TJ to play better. I wonder what TJ's thinking.

[Indiana Jones]

i'm a big 90s bulls fan, so i loved kerr in the jordan era...but he is no jose calderon. he was a spot up shooter. it's hard to compare their games, but given that they are in the same ballpark statistically, it's amazing for jose. but this doesn't even capture his brilliance with the ball, distributing and dominating the opponent offensively.

[viceroy]

having tj come off the bench would be great. just reverse their roles. this allows tj to have less risk of serious neck injury. extends his career by far more than if he was logging serious minutes. and hell if he starts outplaying calderon give him more minutes, or whenever calderon gets winded. at the same time youre giving tjs neck more time to recover and get healthy. until tj can prove he is not in danger on the floor or at least his risk is next to nothing, he needs to come off the bench. this will take at least a half or an entire season of no stingers, and no neck problems whatsoever, for tj to even be considered for the starter position and starter minutes. better safe than sorry. we have no reason to make a rush and have heavy starting . rest him , let him come off the bench for the rest of the season, ease him into it, let the neck rest up and let him go through more training in the summer. once the next season rolls around , then it would be an appropriate time to discuss having tj as a starter again.

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i'm a big 90s bulls fan, so i loved kerr in the jordan era...but he is no jose calderon. he was a spot up shooter. it's hard to compare their games, but given that they are in the same ballpark statistically, it's amazing for jose. but this doesn't even capture his brilliance with the ball, distributing and dominating the opponent offensively.

Then we have the assist to turnover ratio.

Pretty much a slam dunk, so to speak.

[3inakey]

Incredibly consistent. Hats off to Calderon. His PER, in fact both our PG's PER's have put them in the top NBA talents category (20's). I am amazed at where he is vs. where he started regarding his shooting.

I am more than happy for TJ to come off the bench if that ensures more wins. As always, matchups and play will determine actual minutes in game as well as closing. Either of our pointguards can be the Raptor's Ginobli AFAIC.

[The_Hater]

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Why would you think that?

First time on this board Ozzy?

[LittleOzzy]

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First time on this board Ozzy?

I was just hoping he had something to back up his statement, or course he didn't but whatever.

[magani]

having tj come off the bench would be great. just reverse their roles. this allows tj to have less risk of serious neck injury. extends his career by far more than if he was logging serious minutes. and hell if he starts outplaying calderon give him more minutes, or whenever calderon gets winded. at the same time youre giving tjs neck more time to recover and get healthy. until tj can prove he is not in danger on the floor or at least his risk is next to nothing, he needs to come off the bench. this will take at least a half or an entire season of no stingers, and no neck problems whatsoever, for tj to even be considered for the starter position and starter minutes. better safe than sorry. we have no reason to make a rush and have heavy starting . rest him , let him come off the bench for the rest of the season, ease him into it, let the neck rest up and let him go through more training in the summer. once the next season rolls around , then it would be an appropriate time to discuss having tj as a starter again.

Or, a good time to trade him for some real value.

[JD225]

He's extended his shot to the 3 point line and is still a very good finisher for a point guard. I actually get very frustrated when Jose doesn't completely abuse the opposing pg with his shot (passing it to Moon in the corners makes every Raptor fan cringe). To think he just had his career high of only 24 points is crazy. The last couple of weeks he has played at an all star level too. I'm hoping that game against Boston is just a preview of what we will see from Jose come playoff time.