Worst Flopping team in the NBA?

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Post#21 » by hayden » Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:01 am

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Shane draws SOME charges? All the guy does is flop on charges, Scola is gonna hurt someone cause he's gonna flop onto someones knees one of these days and is close to the Varejao level there not to mention Yao whenever he misses a shot looks like he's gonna give birth to a small child trying to get a call. Mcgrady though, not a flopper on offense, sometimes on defense. Maybe I see it more because I'm a Jazz fan and we've played you guys like a millions times it feels like the last year or so.

Memo is not a big-time flopper, not like Shane or Scola and Harpring has bad knees and is just plain out of control.


There are players who are good at drawing legitimate charges and I think Battier is one of the best. He takes a beating on some of those charges:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv4l0KInMNM

Now Harpring.. he's a different story (this has nothing to do with his knees. It's what you would call a "bitch move"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E0q8zyFwV4
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Post#22 » by MagicFan3 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:09 am

Spurs by far, although the Suns can make a strong case for it as well.
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Post#23 » by BooRadley » Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:59 am

EvadedHavoc wrote:This flop trumps all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdERYOt ... re=related



Haha, that's just hilarious. That's Hollywood right there.
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Post#24 » by yehyeh82 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:02 am

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A charge should have been called on the play. Yao set his feet outside the restricted area, and Harrington barrelled in, out of control and slammed into him shoulder first. Yao did flop to try to get a call that he wouldn't get otherwise. Guaranteed, if the same play happened on the other end, Yao would have gotten an offensive foul. Guaranteed. Just because he's big, he shouldn't be allowed to draw an offensive foul?


That's exactly what I'm saying. Do you think Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem and Russell ever tried to draw a charge on a play like that? No, they just stuffed the player.

You watched the game. How many tciky tack foul calls did Yao get in the last five minutes? He had ten frree throws during that span, don't tell me he never gets the calls.

Harrington didn't barrell into him, he took two steps and Yao flopped trying to get a call. If he just holds his ground there was nothing Harrington could do. it would have been an easy block.

I'm just pointing out Yao cause that's the last one I remember. This league is becoming soft when players who weigh 100 lbs more than the opposing player fall over at the slightest bit of contact. Hold your ground and play solid D, darn it! You're a big man for god's sake!
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Post#25 » by Storm Surge » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:20 am

Yao flops on offense because he gets hacked and can't get calls. When you don't get calls it is natural to flop so the refs will actually see it. He has no choice, I bet he is always so pissed off but he doesn't say it to the officials, I bet if he got into the officials face and got some Technicals the refs will give him more respect.

Battier doesn't flop, he draws charges, those are legit, his feet are always correct.

Teams that come to my mind are the spurs, mavs, blazers, cavs, and jazz
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Post#26 » by Smooth32 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:31 am

People seem to forget that Varejao wouldn't be getting the calls he does if it wasn't for his positioning... He flops, some of the time, but the guy is the best on the league at reading an offensive player coming down the lane and getting his feet set...
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Post#27 » by CAE15 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:50 am

I dont think theres any one team that flops a ton, theres certain players who do it quite a bit.
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Post#28 » by UKF » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:57 am

Yeah Spurs
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Post#29 » by RoxFan08 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:20 am

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That's exactly what I'm saying. Do you think Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem and Russell ever tried to draw a charge on a play like that? No, they just stuffed the player.

You watched the game. How many tciky tack foul calls did Yao get in the last five minutes? He had ten frree throws during that span, don't tell me he never gets the calls.

Harrington didn't barrell into him, he took two steps and Yao flopped trying to get a call. If he just holds his ground there was nothing Harrington could do. it would have been an easy block.

I'm just pointing out Yao cause that's the last one I remember. This league is becoming soft when players who weigh 100 lbs more than the opposing player fall over at the slightest bit of contact. Hold your ground and play solid D, darn it! You're a big man for god's sake!


If Yao had tried to block that shot, they would have called a shooting foul. Yao has tried very hard to work with the officials to keep him from getting cheap fouls when people jump or barrell into him. As long as he keeps his arms straight up, he may jump, without fear of a foul call. If he'd tried to block Harrington's shot, he would have had to pull his arms down, and they would have called a foul immediately. Its just the way Yao's officiated. He tried to get the only call he thought he could get. And he didn't get it.
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Post#30 » by Train Wreck » Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:46 am

thEthIEf wrote:i see Rasheed kick his leg out a lot, like a cow kick, not sure how it's not a foul...but hey, it's the Pistons....


Yeah, we all know how much the Ref's love Rasheed :roll:
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Post#31 » by yehyeh82 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:03 am

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If Yao had tried to block that shot, they would have called a shooting foul. Yao has tried very hard to work with the officials to keep him from getting cheap fouls when people jump or barrell into him. As long as he keeps his arms straight up, he may jump, without fear of a foul call. If he'd tried to block Harrington's shot, he would have had to pull his arms down, and they would have called a foul immediately. Its just the way Yao's officiated. He tried to get the only call he thought he could get. And he didn't get it.


Believe me, Harrington doesn't know how to draw a foul and he can't finish. There's no way Yao would have drawn a foul there.

I do understand what you're saying. Biedrins will get fouls called on him somtimes even if he is giving ground when he challenges the shot. That's another one of my gripes. The officials have created situation where you aren't allow to challenge shots unless you're Tim Duncan, which has in turn made the giants of the game try to draw charges from the midgets. I long for the days sometimes where bigs were allowed to protect the lane and guards could hit the mid-range J. Ah, Fundamentals :love:
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Post#32 » by SlickWilly8 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:09 am

I can't believe nobody's said Iverson yet. That guy takes offensive flopping to a whole new level, a defender get's anywhere near him and he's throwing his arms and head back like he just got shot, I swear half his free throw attempts come off of total B.S.
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Post#33 » by Alex_De_Large » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:39 am

Shane Battier is a smart player more than a flopper player, get the difference

Jazz, Suns, Mavs, Nuggets, Celtics, horrrible teams to watch cause they are more in the floor than playing baasketball, but my pick are the Spurs.

parker, oberto, ginobili...
THEY HAVe probably won a lot of games with those 2+1 BS.
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Post#34 » by JellosJigglin » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:58 am

SlickWilly8 wrote:I can't believe nobody's said Iverson yet. That guy takes offensive flopping to a whole new level, a defender get's anywhere near him and he's throwing his arms and head back like he just got shot, I swear half his free throw attempts come off of total B.S.


Yeah, AI is a big time flopper. The biggest flopper on the Nuggets.

As a team, I think the Suns take the cake. Flopping is actually their strategy when they play "defense". The Spurs have players who flop, but they also play great team defense. Grant Hill, Nash, Bell, Amare....all fish.
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Post#35 » by HarlemHeat37 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:24 pm

people that pick the Spurs for this type of **** are clueless for the most part..same with people that claim the refs favor us..it's all hype, and people go into the games expecting it..it happens with every team, but SA is the team that gets pointed out, because people expect it to happen due to the negative hype..

we only have 2 consistent floppers on the team..Manu and Oberto..Horry doesn't even get PT, so he shouldn't be listed..Parker doesn't flop anymore than Dwyane Wade does offensively..he's just a small dude that gets knocked around..

the Spurs can't be #1, when we only have 2 consistent floppers..that doesn't make up for teams full of floppers..the Phoenix Suns for example..90% of their D is flopping..Raja Bell is the biggest flopper in the NBA..the only type of D Nash plays consistently is flopping..Stoudemire has given up on post D, so he flops..Grant Hill can't move quickly anymore, so he flops..I think Marion is the only one on the team that actually plays D without flopping every play..

that Amare-Howard play is disgusting..
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Post#36 » by theTHIEF » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:10 pm

Smooth32 wrote:People seem to forget that Varejao wouldn't be getting the calls he does if it wasn't for his positioning... He flops, some of the time, but the guy is the best on the league at reading an offensive player coming down the lane and getting his feet set...


stop it...you have me in stitches over here...flopping, is flopping...AV is a flopper...so just because he takes a few legit charges here and there doesn't sway that opinion...every analyst and color guy in the league agrees that AV is the flop master since Vlade, just accept it...and be happy you have a guy that will give you calls...i dont understand why guys get so offended...and then try to act like it doesnt happen frequently...it is what it is...i hate it to death...but maybe if i had a flopper i my team i'd learn to accept it...fact is, i dont...but, there's nothing to be done about it right now...enjoy the calls...
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Post#37 » by BooRadley » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:16 pm

The Hornets.
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Post#38 » by Magz50 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:22 pm

Suns are no.1 by a long way.
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Post#39 » by cluelessfans » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:23 pm

AKsWill wrote:The Texas Trio should be on top

Spurs
Dallas
Houston


Houston? Nobody on Houston really flops except Scola. And scola only plays 20 minutes also. Last several years the coach was JVG and he hates flops, so there is no tradition there.

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