All Things Bargnani, Merged.

ansoncarter · Post #261 » by **ansoncarter** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:47 am

still don't get how playing center is supposed to hurt bargs offence, when he only plays center on defence

we post him like once a game. He might be doing some things off the ball he's not used to, but it's nothing big and it's also pretty rare. When he actually gets the ball he's facing up from outside anyways. Same as he would playing pf or sf. Or on another team.

I don't get it. Why's it hurting his offence? the confidence thing?

Voodoochile · Post #262 » by **Voodoochile** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:03 am

Bargs should play on 3pt line whe is guarded by PF's and C's, and should post up when is guarded by SF.

Basketball is a simple game.

Darrick Martin · Post #263 » by **Darrick Martin** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:07 am

I think he'll have a big game tomorrow against the Lakers. Hopefully the big man coaching is paying its dues.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #264 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:20 pm

The last 2 games were games I though we could have got away with him at SF if we wanted to with Blatche and Jamision basically interchanging the PF/SF, he could have guarded either of those guys as well as, haywood. Against that lineup we could play our three bigs, bosh, Bargs, hump/rasho and switch out and be okay.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #265 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:13 pm

since the other thread was locked:

supersub15 wrote:Why do you guys immediately poop on any statistical analysis. So you think Bargnani's play is not reflected in the stats? Which statistical category would you like to hold up as proof that this is wrong? Anyone?

I don't mean to poop on the analysis. I'm, not saying it's lies or BS, it's just not going to change my opinion. I've watched him play for the last season and a half, I have no doubt that he is not the worst player in the league. There's no doubt he's been struggling with picking up fouls and rebounding help D and shooting a low percentage, but I knew that before the Wages of Win data analysis. I'm waiting to see the guy from last year show up more consistently and to improve. I believe these struggles that he is having, with his shot especially, will make him a more complete player in the long run. Sam is holding him accountable. F'up and your on the Bench. And I think not being able to play out of bad nights - is partly the why the formula says what it does. But I think it will motivate Andrea to add to his game. If I'm wrong, I will realize it at some point while watching him play, the data doesn't change it for me. But hey, you know, maybe we can trade him for Malik Rose. Obviously now, there's no question it would be an upgrade, right?.

JD225 · Post #266 » by **JD225** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:18 pm

The only time I remember this season playing a big man lineup with Bargs/Bosh/Hump was when we faced the Kings and Hump matched up with Ron Ron. There would be twice the number of embarrassing "I can't believe we drafted this guy" moments if we allowed Bargs to play the 3.