All Star Reserves

[Alex_De_Large]

Calderon will go in some years, he need to play more minutes and score more, thats what it takes make it into the all.star.
Btw Nash didn't make it until he was 28, Calderon will have a chance, but not now.

[tranjSAIC]

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If he had been putting up the same numbers he put up this month for the season, he would be a lock to get in right now, not even a debate.

Whats the problem with you Raptor's fans? You just stated right there, IF he had the same numbers for the season. No one is saying he sucks or anything, he just doesn't deserve it because he hasn't been doing it all year.

[tranjSAIC]

David West????

Huh??

never would have expected that

Same here, I know the Hornets have been bad ass this year, but if two Hornets players were going to make it shouldn't Chandler be the 2nd one? I don't follow them enough to answer it, but I could have sworn he was more important then West.

[thamadkant]

I still myself can't understand how Roy makes it over B Diddy. Roy is a upper role player and not an all star. His stats are not impressive at all. And to say Portland is a good team is crazy. Think about it if the playoffs started today they would be swept easily. Now B Diddy shows heart and compassion and puts the stats up from the past and present to back his case up.

I agree that Baron Davis deserved it this season over Brandon Roy, as Brandon, as good as he has been, should be paying his dues still... and factor in Baron just having a great season.

BUT... to say Brandon Roy is an upper role player... Do you play basketball? or even watch it apart from fancy moves and dunks?

Brandon Roy has complete game, he isnt fancy but he plays it as well as any all-star perimeter players there... he doesnt take fancy fade aways or dunk a lot on big men... but he gets it... he plays the game the way coach loves it...

He is a less talented Penny Hardaway... a thinking man's Wade.... what ever... people will see it as he progress in the league... the Ray Allen comparison last season is respectable.. but Roy is more of a ball handler, play maker... and not as good of a shooter. But he has complete game for his position...

[tranjSAIC]

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This year the West is so stacked that somebody had to miss out, and I guess coaches decided that the leadership Roy brings to such a young team goes beyond anything that shows up in the stats.

Too bad some of those guards didn't play in the east, our guards are so crappy this year freaking JJ made it. I doubt any of our guards make it except MAYBE Billups if they played in the west.

[tranjSAIC]

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[tranjSAIC]

The West is so ridiculously filled with All Star Caliber guards, it's not even funny. Here's just a list off the top of my head that of guards that have and/or could make the All Star Game....

Kobe
TMac
Paul
Deron
Davis
Roy
Martin
Howard
AI
Parker
Ginobili
Jackson

I never really thought about that until this year when we got freaking JJ as an allstar =(

I feel bad for all those guys on the west who didn't make it because there is just soooooooooooo much talent out there.

[tranjSAIC]

i dont get it....this year makes no sense at all. David west is in over camby...camby is leading the league in rebounds and blocks while west is having average PF numbers. David west cant even crack 10 rpg.

I agree 100%, the only reason Camby didn't make it is because Denver hasn't been good enough to warrant 3 allstars.

[tranjSAIC]

I hate to say it but Warriors fans are really annoying, it's just the freaking all-star game. Seriously

How much noise do you think Lakers fans would make if Kobe didn't make it? I doubt they would be saying its ONLY A FREAKING ALL-STAR GAME.

BTW, none Warriors fan here.

[tranjSAIC]

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Stop skewing his numbers. Try 19/4/5/46%. He's putting up better numbers than Hamilton and Johnson who also made the squad.

Thats because the guards in the east suck so much, I doubt any of them except maybe Billups makes it out west.

[tranjSAIC]

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Coaches know more then most fans and see these guys up close. So maybe give them credit for who they chose.

Also you gotta take in consideration coaches spend there free time going over game teams of teams they are about to play, they don't follow who's hot and who's not that much. Case in point, the Bucks coach said he voted for the guy down in Orlando..........LEWIS, anyone who has followed Orlando this year knows Lewis has been subpar while Turk has been our 2nd best player. That just goes to show you how much some coaches follow other teams. They are too busy concentrating on their own teams to worry about anything else.

[TheKingOfVa360]

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Neither is Joe Johnson this season. And he's been every bit as good as Rip, if not better. Name recognition and playing on a superior team is what got him snubbed over those guys.

I'm not angry over Rip getting in (team record wins out in a close call), Billups was a certainty, anyone debating that is a fool. The Johnson selection was unwarranted, there really isn't one argument I believe can be made this season for him. He's made a name for himself around the league and is more known over guys like Calderon and Turkoglu.

At least Bosh got the most votes in the East...Nash with the most in the West...

Where can you see who got the most votes for reserves? Someone please give me that link

[TheKingOfVa360]

As a Jazz fan, I'm glad to see D-Will getting some love. I didn't think he necessarily deserved to be in over Baron or Paul. I thought he should be in before Tony Parker though so I'm glad Tony didn't make the team. Was also definitely surprised to see David West get the nod. I thought for sure it will be somebody else. Also pretty shocked that Manu didn't make it. Maybe his play seems to be a lot better than it really is because I'm a Jazz fan and he kills us, but he has pretty much been unstoppable this year in his 29-30 MPG. I just don't know who I would have subbed him for!

I do think in the East that two players should have gone to the game. I think both Gerald Wallace and Josh Smith should have made the team over both Antawn Jamison and Joe Johnson. I think overall, Smith is FAR more important to the Hawks than Joe is. Josh Smith has a HUGE effect on both sides of the floor, especially on D. Dude is also coming along nicely on the offensive end. Gerald Wallace has been unbelievable. The Bobcats may not have a great record, but they've been playing pretty well as of late. If Wallace isn't on that team, they are bottom dwellers. I think he deserves to be in too. Surprised neither of these guys have gotten much attention in the snub talk. Just my 2 cents.

No Jamison deserved it. The Bobcats are bottom dwellers with or without Wallace. Jamison is getting 20-10 on a winning team minus Agent Zero. Everyone thought they wouldn't make the playoffs without him.

[The_Believer]

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How that comment makes me laugh. My guess is that you havent seeing West even play.

While reading a lot about what people say, I have to first say its just an ALL-STAR game. Honestly, is that going to win playoffs games for your guy? NO. Next, I think all sides have good arguments of why their guy should have made it over x player. However, Coaches know more then most fans and see these guys up close. So maybe give them credit for who they chose. Also, remember usually one or two players end up playing because of injuries so dont freak out yet.

Finally, I just wish the all-star game would go to a team of 15. Then I dont think you would hear snub as much.

Would West be nearly as good as he is now if he didn't have Chris Paul?

[Doctor MJ]

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Would West be nearly as good as he is now if he didn't have Chris Paul?

It's interesting to me how Paul is perceived as making a bunch of nobodies good. It's not like Paul ever did anything big without West y'know. I've got no problem saying Paul's the best player on the team, but when people say "Paul should win the MVP, he's playing with a bunch of nobodies while others are playing with other stars", they are over looking some facts. Among them: Paul isn't one of these guys who has a skyhigh +/- while his teammates are muddled together, which is what you should expect if he is truly a superstar among peons. By contrast, Nash, despite playing with "a great supporting cast" has *much* greater separation. Now I don't have a problem with people putting Paul ahead of Nash in MVP standing, but complete dismissal of Paul's teammates is too much.

West deserves credit for his role in making the Hornets what they are, simple as that.

[The_Believer]

Biggest snubs are obviously Baron and Deron Williams, but someone had to miss out. I think including David West is nice, but it's definitely one of those "team success" picks, because Baron and Deron are both more important to their teams.

By the way, Baron puts up better numbers than Roy, but Roy is a far better defender, which I think makes him deserving.

About how Baron held Bron to <40% shooting, while Roy let him go crazy on him? About how Baron locked down Kobe and Wade; Roy gets destroyed by them?

[Papercut]

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About how Baron held Bron to <40% shooting, while Roy let him go crazy on him? About how Baron locked down Kobe and Wade; Roy gets destroyed by them?

Baron doesn't even defend any of those guys, Stephen Jackson does. Now you're just being silly.

[The_Believer]

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Baron doesn't even defend any of those guys, Stephen Jackson does. Now you're just being silly.

Did you watch any of the GS/LAL and GS/ MIA games? Baron switched on Wade after Wade was destroying us in the first 3 quarters (Wade 0 4Q points), and he took on Kobe most often during the gs/lal games (held Kobe to ~30% shooting). Plus, in the beginning, S-Jax was gone, so Baron took the reigns on guarding Bron. He held Bron to <40% shooting that one game. Furthermore, he also forced 7 TOs on Nash in the Warriors/Suns game this season.

I can't wait for the game when Roy gets torched for 50 + points.

[KingDave]

B.Roy drops a triple double for you non-believers

[ph1sh55]

Roy gets destroyed by Kobe? They haven't played this year, and he wasn't guarding him last year. I can tell you are an informed basketball fan and not an obnoxious homer.
D wade "destroyed him?" Actually when Roy switched to him in the 4th quarter he only shut him down (wade reeled off all his pts in the 3rd) and scored ~16 of his own to lead a 4th quarter comeback, something that he has grown a reputation for.

Yes there is a vast coaches conspiracy to vote Roy into the all star reserves- Nba coaches don't know about basketball or what makes a player truly successful: it's not like they are watching the players from 20 feet away every game. No, you are the knowledgeable one because you read BOX SCOREZZ!@!

Maybe Baron can lead the warriors to a respectable loss against the blazers next time!