OT: Wow...Lakers get GASOL

Egregious Blunder · Post #41 » by **Egregious Blunder** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:33 pm

wow. cant wait for a celtics-lakers final
that would be insane!

thejackram · Post #42 » by **thejackram** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:35 pm

suprised at what the lakers got gasol for. Crittenton, whos only scored 72 pts all year. Hes only played once in the last 5 games and that was 3 minutes against the knicks. The two 1st rounders can help the grizzlies though. Suprise deal in my opinion

return2glory · Post #43 » by **return2glory** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:36 pm

This is some bull ****. Screw Chris Wallace. IMO, this makes the Lakers the best team in the league once Bynum comes back.

SF: Odom
PF: Gasol
C: Bynum
SG: Kobe
PG: Fisher

IMO, they now have one of the best front courts in the league, if not the best. They also have Kobe in the backcourt.

Jerry West must have had a hand in this.

The only way we can beat the Lakers now is if we can somehow get Cassell.

The Lakers came out great in the deal. This was just a robbery. **** Chris Wallace.

daveisceltics · Post #44 » by **daveisceltics** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:36 pm

Even with this trade the west still has 2 teams better than the Lakers.
Spurs and Suns.
You'll see playoff time.

leper-con · Post #45 » by **leper-con** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:39 pm

daveisceltics wrote:Even with this trade the west still has 2 teams better than the Lakers.
Spurs and Suns.
You'll see playoff time.

Suns are n't better than the lakers and on paper with Kobe LA is now the team to beat. This league is about the big mena and LA now has two low post scorers with mobility plus the black mamba. They also have a great coach

JahReid · Post #46 » by **JahReid** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:40 pm

They are going to need to ship out Odom for it to really gel. Trade Odom for a PG and that team is a lot more amazing.

BrokenLeftyJumper · Post #47 » by **BrokenLeftyJumper** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:43 pm

No matter how people spin it this is an awful trade for Memphis. Yes, they are cutting some salary but they just traded an all star pf for a rookie and 2 picks that are going to be late first rounders. They should have asked for more like Farmar or Turiaf but even still awful trade.

I don't think so. If you think about it solely considering this season, then yes it's a bad trade for the Grizz. But Memphis isn't going anywhere this season no matter what they do. So why not trade all your contracts while you can, create cap space, and improve your chances in the lottery while your at it? It's a no-brainer in my opinion.

They also didn't trade an all-star PF. The all-star reserves came out yesterday, and I didn't see Gasol's name on it nor did I see his name in any of the snubbed lists. That would indicate to me that Gasol is not an all-star nor even arguably an all-star. He was an all-star once, that does not make him an all-star for life, unless you follow the Antoine Walker 'veteran all-star' mantra.

What they did trade was a peaked PF with a massive contract who you cannot build a team around. Gasol is a good fit for the Lakers because he gives them a title shot, but his contract was just an albatross for the Grizzlies.

Think about the Grizz this upcoming off-season.

1. Top 5 pick in a pretty good draft.
2. 15-20 million under the cap.
3. Already have Conley, Miller, Gay, and Darko.

They could be legit NEXT YEAR if they draft well and sign a big free agent.

Think about what they feasibly be rocking next year:

PG: Conley
SG: Miller
SF: Gay
PF: Beasley
C: Darko

And that's not even spending the big chunk of cap space they are gonna have.

They are gonna have a ton of options at the end of the season. The more i think about it, the more I like what Memphis did.

HighAboveCourtside · Post #48 » by **HighAboveCourtside** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:44 pm

How does Chicago not make a play for Gasol? The Bulls are **** inept. They don't trade PJ Brown, miss out on KG, pass on Kobe, and now sit around while Gasol gets traded for a bag of chips??

Remind me again why a year ago everyone was saying Paxson was a genius and Danny Ainge was the anti-christ?

BillessuR6 · Post #49 » by **BillessuR6** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:45 pm

Are you kidding me!!!This is PATHETIC for the grizzlies!!! PATHETIC!!!!

Celts17Pride · Post #50 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:45 pm

Once again this shows the value of a LARGE expiring contract (Kwame), young talent and draft picks to a team that is struggling with an highly paid star player. This trade is just like the deal the Celtics did with Garnett.

I think it's a good deal for both teams. LA gets help right now and the Grizz get draft picks, young players and cap space for next year.

My calculations have the Griz at $39 million next year with the Swift trade, Gasol trade & Stoudamire buyout. Their pick will be a high pick (Top 5) this year. What free agent will they sign next year (Brand, Deng, Gordon)?

I think Wallace did well. Gasol was not going to lead them anywhere.

GuyClinch · Post #51 » by **GuyClinch** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:48 pm

Lakers vs. C's in finals - book it. Great move by Jerry West for the Lakers. It's like he wanted to strike back against Mchale. LMAO.

Pete

leper-con · Post #52 » by **leper-con** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:49 pm

The Griz are loosing money hand over fist and have been for years that is oneof the motivating factors for this trade

sprash9802 · Post #53 » by **sprash9802** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:51 pm

haha...Adande JUST answered my question. I posted as John.

John, MA: The Lakers just got the softest big in the league..Congrats!! Now Bynum will have to defend the likes of Dirk and Duncan one-on-one because Gasol cannot guard a chair. I guess the Lakers become a bigger version of the Suns..score 105 and give up 110.

SportsNation J.A. Adande: (3:49 PM ET ) This is too extreme, but it does bring up the main question the Lakers will have to address: defense. They had already demonstrated they were one of the top scoring teams with Bynum. I'm interested to see how this will work defensively. But they do have Ronny Turiaf, who I should have mentioned as being another Rambis-type that they already have.

Gant · Post #54 » by **Gant** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:57 pm

Don't get wrong, this is a terrific trade for the Lakers. Just getting rid of Kwame makes them better. But...

1) The Lakers were pretty soft before. They still are.

2) The Lakers are not faster.

3) The Lakers are not better defensively. They are probably a little worse.

4) The Lakers are not better on the boards.

5) The Lakers are at least as brittle as before the trade. They've got one key guy out, and they have a few more players who have a hard time staying healthy including Gasol.

The Lakers are now much better in a half court offense. This will help. It may make them the favorite to reach the finals, but don't be surprised if Dallas outplays them, San Antonio shuts them down, or Phoenix runs them off the court.

Bottom line: Should it come down to it, the Celtics still match up very well against them.
Perkins took Bynum right out of the game both times this year.
Garnett is all over Gasol.
Pierce over Odom any day of the week.
Ray Allen does as well against Kobe as anyone.
Rondo just keeps getting better.

Also, the Celtics bench matches up very well.

daveisceltics · Post #55 » by **daveisceltics** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:59 pm

Gant wrote:Don't get wrong, this is a terrific trade for the Lakers. Just getting rid of Kwame makes them better. But...

1) The Lakers were pretty soft before. They still are.

2) The Lakers are not faster.

3) The Lakers are not better defensively. They are probably a little worse.

4) The Lakers are not better on the boards.

5) The Lakers are at least as brittle as before the trade. They've got one key guy out, and they have a few more players who have a hard time staying healthy including Gasol.

The Lakers are now much better in a half court offense. This will help. It may make them the favorite to reach the finals, but don't be surprised if Dallas outplays them, San Antonio shuts them down, or Phoenix runs them off the court.

Bottom line: Should it come down to it, the Celtics still match up very well against them.
Perkins took Bynum right out of the game both times this year.
Garnett is all over Gasol.
Pierce over Odom any day of the week.
Ray Allen does as well against Kobe as anyone.
Rondo just keeps getting better.

Also, the Celtics bench matches up very well.

Amen.

leper-con · Post #56 » by **leper-con** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:00 pm

Gant wrote:Don't get wrong, this is a terrific trade for the Lakers. Just getting rid of Kwame makes them better. But...

1) The Lakers were pretty soft before. They still are.

2) The Lakers are not faster.

3) The Lakers are not better defensively. They are probably a little worse.

4) The Lakers are not better on the boards.

5) The Lakers are at least as brittle as before the trade. They've got one key guy out, and they have a few more players who have a hard time staying healthy including Gasol.

The Lakers are now much better in a half court offense. This will help. It may make them the favorite to reach the finals, but don't be surprised if Dallas outplays them, San Antonio shuts them down, or Phoenix runs them off the court.

Bottom line: Should it come down to it, the Celtics still match up very well against them.
Perkins took Bynum right out of the game both times this year.
Garnett is all over Gasol.
Pierce over Odom any day of the week.
Ray Allen does as well against Kobe as anyone.
Rondo just keeps getting better.

Also, the Celtics bench matches up very well.

Phil Jack is a rubicks cube while Doc is a checkers board...advantage Lakers

greenbeans · Post #57 » by **greenbeans** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:01 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Lakers vs. C's in finals - book it. Great move by Jerry West for the Lakers. It's like he wanted to strike back against Mchale. LMAO.

Pete

no more logo my friend, this was another old friend of ours, chris wallace.

and id love this deal if im a lakers fan, it puts them in the Phoenix, Dallas group. theyre all still short of San Antonio though imo.
and i hope for a LAL vs BOS finals, can you imagine the field day KG will have?? wow, that could get ugly

JHTruth · Post #58 » by **JHTruth** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:01 pm

I don't think Gasol is really that good honestly. KG is WAYYYY better. And Odom is garbage..

Gant · Post #59 » by **Gant** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:03 pm

leper-con wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Phil Jack is a rubicks cube while Doc is a checkers board...advantage Lakers

No Phil's a carpetbagger, and Doc's a straight shooter. Doc undressed Phil both games this year. Jackson wasn't even smart enough to press the Celtics with Rondo out in the Game in LA.

Post #60 » by **darrendaye** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:06 pm

Andrew Bynum's arrival makes this a master stroke. Many of us would not have wanted Gasol for Big Al straight up, IMO, for valid reasons. But, having him as a 3rd banana would seem to be a good fit as an inside/outside big man mix with Bynum down low and Gasol at his best from outside.