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Look to move Odom now?

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Move Odom?

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Post#1 » by UThinkUrSoGood » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:29 pm

So, now that we have aquired Gasol, do we push to make an Odom trade? IMO, Odom is a terrible 3, and he isn't strong enough for the 4. He definately doesn't fit on this team, so what move do we make for Odom now? Or do you feel we need to make any?
Artest or Marion come to my mind, preferably Artest for his defense.
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Post#2 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:56 pm

No. As poorly as he's playing now, Lamar's stock has to be at an all-time low. We'd have to take a huge hit on our investment.

A better move would be to keep this team intact, let Bynum get healthy, let Pau settle in and see what happens.

If he doesn't fit in, we've got a $14 million expiring contract to play with next season.
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Post#3 » by Erik Eleven » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:57 pm

I say yes.

What we'll need now is a small forward that can spread the floor.

My next goal would be to trade Odom for Battier. The guy plays rock solid defense and shoots the lights out. Right now would be the perfect time to try to get it done because he's been stinking it up under Adelman. I have a feeling that has more to do with Adelman than it does Battier. Battier is one of the classiest and smartest guys/players in the leauge
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Post#4 » by hermes » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:03 pm

kwame's stock was about as low as it could be
so maybe we could get............lebron for odom :wink:
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Post#5 » by milesfides » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:03 pm

Now, the writing is on the wall. Unless Odom renegotiates a contract for the MLE, he's not going to be wearing a Laker uniform. Bynum's extension kicks in the same time Odom's contract ends.

Odom is going to be available for the highest bidder until next year's deadline, when we might have to dump him like the Grizz dumped Gasol.
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Post#6 » by Vlade4life » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:04 pm

Well this deadline is our last chance at getting rid of Lamar's salary for next year, and Battier is the best idea because Houston is probably the only team desperate enough for a rebounder with some offensive skills is Houston. Trade Lamar for Battier, Wells, and Snyder and we cut nearly half of Lamar's salary for next year.
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Post#7 » by Lakers05 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:04 pm

For Marion? Yes. Other than him, no. You don't trade him just to trade him.
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Post#8 » by 0HeadAche0 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:05 pm

I say no.

Chemistry reason is my main factor to not switch him mid season for someone who doesn't know the triangle as well as he does because lets not forget he has played in this system for the last 4 years almost. He is now the legitimate 3rd option whilst Bynum is out and we have always said thats what he is but when Bynum comes back he becomes the 4th option and he is not a player I don't think worries about getting his touches.

He can now just concentrate on rebounding, playing tougher defense, creating for others and not having to do the one thing he is not very good at, being aggressive.

We don't need another scorer now and thats not what Lamar Odom, I would only trade him if we were getting a lock down defender and an expiring contract. Like Artest + Expiring but other than that, run with Odom till the end of the season see how good we finish up and then evaluate our options but trading him now would be a mistake imo.
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Post#9 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:05 pm

Erik Eleven wrote:I say yes.

What we'll need now is a small forward that can spread the floor.

My next goal would be to trade Odom for Battier. The guy plays rock solid defense and shoots the lights out. Right now would be the perfect time to try to get it done because he's been stinking it up under Adelman. I have a feeling that has more to do with Adelman than it does Battier. Battier is one of the classiest and smartest guys/players in the leauge
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Post#10 » by CJballa14 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:08 pm

Battier, James, Snyder for odom


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Post#11 » by Lakers05 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:10 pm

Odom is the best player in that group, so no. Quality over quantity, ALWAYS. We have a Big Four, why downgrade it to just the Big Three?
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Post#12 » by Erik Eleven » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:11 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:Battier would be an awesome fit. We don't need any more firepower.


The main reason why I'd like him is his defense.

Our current need, to complete a championship contending team:
Defensive bulldog SF who can shoot the three at a high clip and is smart enough to pick up the triangle within weeks.

^ = Shane Battier

Second on my list would be Mike Miller but his defense isn't nearly as good.


However, we won't be all bad if we keep Odom either. :lol:
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Post#13 » by Gerald3Wallace » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:13 pm

we got the best BIG 4 in the EFFING LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#14 » by Erik Eleven » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:16 pm

milesfides wrote:Now, the writing is on the wall. Unless Odom renegotiates a contract for the MLE, he's not going to be wearing a Laker uniform. Bynum's extension kicks in the same time Odom's contract ends.


Odom's expiring needs to be traded next season if not before. Neeeeeeds to be traded. Bynum's extension can be picked up regardless. This is not the time for Buss to be cheap. I'd bet the farm that he will open up the big wallet in the next few years.

Trade Odom next off-season for a more expensive disgruntled SF star. Up the payroll.

Then, extend Bynum for 55 years and a trillion dollars. Up the payroll even more.
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Post#15 » by Lakers05 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:16 pm

Correction. We're the only team with a Big Four in the league. Seriously, you'd have to go back to the Chicago days to find a team with this much talent.
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Post#16 » by Gerald3Wallace » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:17 pm

Odom is perfect for this...He would be so happy to be a 4th option..next year...he would be a huge expiring..so thats even a bigger trade piece
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Post#17 » by Spanish_Laker » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:19 pm

No. Why? Easy. Lamar Odom is a key and versatile player and if we want to win the championship this year we should keep him.

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Post#18 » by milesfides » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:29 pm

Honestly, with Ariza, Walton, and Radman at small forward, I can't see the Lakers trading Odom for another high-priced small forward.

I think that's a corner the Lakers will cut.
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Post#19 » by Rooster » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:29 pm

Sorry to intrude but I've always been an Odom supporter and I think this team is actually quite a good fit for him. He can help Kobe with the ball-handling duties while ensuring that you guys have one of the best frontcourts in the league. On top of that, since Gasol can score, that masks Odom's greatest weakness, his inability to take over a game offensively. As long as he isn't asked to shoot a lot of threes (which Fisher/Kobe can do anyway) I don't see him being all that bad at the 3.
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Post#20 » by Ocho Cinco » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:30 pm

Lakers05 wrote:Correction. We're the only team with a Big Four in the league. Seriously, you'd have to go back to the Chicago days to find a team with this much talent.


I would argue that heavily. But it's easy to tell reading your posts that it won't matter, because you stink of homerism. I would say a few other teams have a "big four", specifically New Orleans (Paul / Peja / West / Chandler) or Phoenix (Nash / Marion / Amare / Barbosa) but it's really difficult to argue which team would have the BETTER big four as we've never seen yours play.

I would definitely agree that you guys should look to trade Odom. I definitely see him as a player who's going to have major ego issues being the 4th option on this team once your whole squad is healthy. You'd be much better off seeking to trade him for someone like Shane Battier (as mentioned above) or Ron Artest (but he may have similar issues with being a 4th offensive option) who can lockdown on the defensive side of the ball. With Kobe, Bynum and Gasol, you really don't need any more offence. You're probably looking at 60 PPG out of those 3 alone. With that type of production, coupled with the fact that you all already seem to understand Odom is going to be gone next year when you deal him as an expiring, you might as well see if you can acquire a player like Battier which would make your team pretty darn complete.

One last note: I also think a problem you're going to run into is having Odom at the 3 as opposed to the 4. When Bynum is healthy, Jackson is going to have to stick Odom back at the 3 spot and you can certainly argue he's performed a lot better at the 4.

With all of that said, I certainly am glad Gasol isn't going to dress against the Raptors tonight. I fear your squad right now. Good luck, Laker fans. :clap:

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