Best international player to never play in the NBA?

Post #21 » by **tkb** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 10:41 am

Oscar Schmidt if I'm not mistaken has scored the most points out of any basketball player ever if you add up all points they scored in pro leagues + national team play. He's well above 50,000 total points, and is the greatest non-US player to never play in the NBA:

CITYOFANGELSX3 · Post #22 » by **CITYOFANGELSX3** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 10:47 am

Sun Yue!!! The Chinese Magic johnson!!!!!!!

jeahwe · Post #23 » by **jeahwe** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 11:01 am

tkb wrote:Oscar Schmidt if I'm not mistaken has scored the most points out of any basketball player ever if you add up all points they scored in pro leagues + national team play. He's well above 50,000 total points, and is the greatest non-US player to never play in the NBA:

No, he isn't. He was one dimensional player who couldn't do anything expect scoring. Sure, was very good at that, but it almost always hurts his teams.

Post #24 » by **pillwenney** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:10 pm

"Oscar Schmidt number 1 in international play, and number 1 in our hearts."

--Bill Walton

jeahwe · Post #25 » by **jeahwe** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:24 pm

"FIBA BEST PLAYERS

1 Sergei Belov (USSR) 317 votes
2 Drazen Petrovic (YUG) 280 votes
3 Arvydas Sabonis (USSR) 277 votes
4 Kresimir Cosic (YUG) 273 votes
5 Toni Kukoc (YUG) 264 votes
6 Nikos Galis (GREECE) 251 votes
7 Radivoj Korac (YUG) 246 votes
8 Dino Meneghin (ITA) 221 votes
9 Drazen Dalipagic (YUG) 209 votes
10 Oscar Schmidt (BRAZIL) 205 votes"

- voting organized by FIBA; panel were journalists covering the sport in 16 countries.

so who knows better - Walton or FIBA and european journalists?

parso15 · Post #26 » by **parso15** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 2:19 pm

Great list but sometimes players way of playing does not suit the NBA game. I doubt that they would have ben the legends they are now if they made the jump oversees. Don't get me wrong they would have made an impact on the NBA but probably not the way we would like to.

For instance Gallis was great but he needed a couple of inches to make it big time.

Another player who would have been a great great shooter for an NBA team was Harun Erdenay. Sweetest shooting stroke you imagine with athletism too. The guy was just an offensive machine... in training he would switch to his left and score regularly from 3 point range

And then there is Erman Kunter...153 points in a division 1 game... thats not bad at all :wink:

Lakers_4_Life · Post #27 » by **Lakers_4_Life** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 3:52 pm

It's Nikos Galis and it's not even close.

Sergei Belov Soviet Union basketball star 1987:

"I admire him. When he plays one on one there is no way to stop him. I never thought there could be a player who could on his own beat the Soviet Union."

Aleksandr Gomelsky Soviet Union coach 1989:

"Galis is the player of the 21st century."

Arvydas Sabonis 1989:

Nuzzo · Post #28 » by **Nuzzo** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:03 pm

Nick Galis-born July 23, 1957, New Jersey, U.S.A.

prekazi · Post #29 » by **prekazi** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:05 pm

Oscar Schmidt.

A.J. · Post #30 » by **A.J.** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:07 pm

fran vaquez...

Post #31 » by **5DOM** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:23 pm

omg, reading the names alone hurts my eyes!!

CaptainFanchini · Post #32 » by **CaptainFanchini** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:29 pm

Mmm, there are various names in my mind.

But I have been always amazed by Oscar Schmidt ... he made some monstrous games here in Italy between the late 80s and early 90s ...
In one game he made something like 12-15 from 3, or so ...

Toxicity · Post #33 » by **Toxicity** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:58 pm

Galis... no way you could stop him.

RIPskaterdude · Post #34 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:06 pm

They listed Toni Kukoc in the top 10?

flyingvee · Post #35 » by **flyingvee** » Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:57 pm

I was wondering the same thing. Kukoc was always so over-hyped and never lived up to that hype.

It's really tough to list one guy who hands down was the best. I think Galis was unstoppable. His senior year at Seton Hall he was lighting it up for 28ppg. A young Arvydas was a monster. Oscar was a deadlt shooter. Belov, Petrovic. I can't wait till they come up with a really great baketball simulator that can factor in the different eras and styles and do some replayys with these guys.

Lakers_4_Life · Post #36 » by **Lakers_4_Life** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:46 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:They listed Toni Kukoc in the top 10?

Yeah, IMO Dejan Bodiroga was definitely better than Kukoc.

jeahwe · Post #37 » by **jeahwe** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:17 pm

flyingvee wrote:I was wondering the same thing. Kukoc was always so over-hyped and never lived up to that hype.
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In NBA, but in Europe he was the best player in early 90s. He won two European Player of the Year awards in a row (was better than Sabonis or Galis. Drazen at that time was benched in Portland) and lead great Jugoplastika (the best team in euro history) to championships.

Kukoc in NBA wasn't as good because in Chicago they changed his role. It was like in early 80s Lakers would tell Magic that he couldn't play with ball but only go under the basket and play PF.

ps
Galis was born in USA, but he is Greek.

East_Coast · Post #38 » by **East_Coast** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:17 pm

Frederick Weis.

Kush · Post #39 » by **Kush** » Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:03 pm

If Sabonis played in his prime in the NBA, he could have easily been the best European player to ever play in NBA...better than Dirk.