I am starting to get interested in this kid.
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My question is this.
1.) Is he a 4 or a 5
2.) How would you rate his BBIQ
3.) Is his defense near what DX explains (PJ Brown) How would you grade it?
4.) What would he need to do to move into the top 7.
5.) How does he match up to Roy Hibbert and Joakim Noah
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1.) Is he a 4 or a 5-I think he plays a bit more comfortable at the four but he is also very good at the center position.
2.) How would you rate his BBIQ-HE has a great BBIQ. I would give it a A
2.) How would you rate his BBIQ-HE has a great BBIQ. I would give it a A
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I was just got done watching him today and I don't think he will be that great in the NBA.
He is a 4
BBIQ - he is smart and knows how to get calls and plays well in the post
As for his defense like PJ I don't think so. He gets blocks because he is 7 foot and the only other 2 7 footers that play in the pac-10 are wolfinger and his brother. If your taller than everyone else you block everyone.
He will be drafted high because he is 7 feet tall. I would like to compare him to Johan Petro.
More athletic than Hibbert less active than Noah
He is a 4
BBIQ - he is smart and knows how to get calls and plays well in the post
As for his defense like PJ I don't think so. He gets blocks because he is 7 foot and the only other 2 7 footers that play in the pac-10 are wolfinger and his brother. If your taller than everyone else you block everyone.
He will be drafted high because he is 7 feet tall. I would like to compare him to Johan Petro.
More athletic than Hibbert less active than Noah
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1) Either 4 or 5. Kind of like Tim Duncan in that way (obviously, not as talented as Duncan, I'm just talking about positions here)
2) BBIQ is solid but still leaves something to be desired. He's made a lot of strides this year with composure and playing smart, but there are some times he'll pick and leave the PG out there on an island--he's actually one of the few guys coach Trent Johnson will criticize by name. His post play, however, has taken off recently. He's starting to get it figured out.
3) Wouldn't say his defense is as good as PJ Brown. He does get a lot of help from his brother, who's often the primary defender (Robin shut down Ryan Anderson a couple weeks ago, and look at the #s Anderson put up this weekend.) But Brook's not all bad either--he had 12 blocks against USC last year, which isn't easy. Yes, he was the tallest player on the court, but help defense and blocking penetration is important, too.
4) Top 7? NBAdraft.net already has him top 5.
5) Agree with bigmac19 here. About right.
2) BBIQ is solid but still leaves something to be desired. He's made a lot of strides this year with composure and playing smart, but there are some times he'll pick and leave the PG out there on an island--he's actually one of the few guys coach Trent Johnson will criticize by name. His post play, however, has taken off recently. He's starting to get it figured out.
3) Wouldn't say his defense is as good as PJ Brown. He does get a lot of help from his brother, who's often the primary defender (Robin shut down Ryan Anderson a couple weeks ago, and look at the #s Anderson put up this weekend.) But Brook's not all bad either--he had 12 blocks against USC last year, which isn't easy. Yes, he was the tallest player on the court, but help defense and blocking penetration is important, too.
4) Top 7? NBAdraft.net already has him top 5.
5) Agree with bigmac19 here. About right.
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revprodeji wrote:I am starting to get interested in this kid.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brook-Lopez-545
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profile ... lopez.html
My question is this.
1.) Is he a 4 or a 5
2.) How would you rate his BBIQ
3.) Is his defense near what DX explains (PJ Brown) How would you grade it?
4.) What would he need to do to move into the top 7.
5.) How does he match up to Roy Hibbert and Joakim Noah
People have been telling me I had him overrated all season long, and now suddenly people are becoming believers. Love it.
1. He could play either in the NBA but is probably more of a natural 4.
2. His basketball IQ is very good. He is a smart player who doesn't force anything and plays within the team concept.
3. Solid but not spectacular defender. Not Oden, but a capable defender.
4. He has been in my top 7 for weeks. He is probably in the top 7 right now for most teams.
5. He is a better, more complete prospect than either Hibbert or Noah. He obviously lacks Hibbert's awsome size, but he has far more upside. Lopez is not the defender than Noah is, but he is lightyears better on offense. IMO he compares favorably to Pau Gasol as far as style of play and potential if all goes well.
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more complete prospect then Hibbert. Interesting. COnsidering Hibbert's size as well as defense and very complete offensive game. I will need to see more Lopez if you consider him in that boat.
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revprodeji wrote:I am starting to get interested in this kid.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brook-Lopez-545
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profile ... lopez.html
My question is this.
1.) Is he a 4 or a 5
He's definitely a 5.
He's just about 7 feet and has the body to play C in the NBA. He'd be better off matching up against C's against whom he can use his quickness against than shorter PF's that may be a step quicker than him. I think he's got the strength right now to body most NBA C's and he can definitely add some more strength to his frame.
2.) How would you rate his BBIQ
Seems just fine. He doesn't seem to bite on fakes. He gets into position well. He seems to have a good feel for when he should post and when he should move away from the basket. For a big man, that's pretty much what you're looking for. Hibbert might have a bit better feel but Lopez has better overall skills IMHO.
3.) Is his defense near what DX explains (PJ Brown) How would you grade it?
The games I've watched Lopez play, he seems to play with a bit of a chip on his shoulder (doesn't seem to mind in taking or dishing out a shot), so that will always help defensively. He doesn't seem to bite for fakes and he gets pretty good position so that will offset some of the fouls he make pick up from his physical play. I'd say he'd be a more than adequate defensive player especially given his excellent shotblocking instincts. No Tim Duncan but still a solid defender.
4.) What would he need to do to move into the top 7.
Honeslty, I don't know that he might not already be in the top 7 for some teams. IMHO he's the most skilled C in college, he has an NBA body, he plays aggressively, he shows strong instincts and he's got a potentially very marketable look about him.
5.) How does he match up to Roy Hibbert and Joakim Noah
Much more of a complete offensive player than either Hibbert or Noah. Noah really is more of a PF IMHO so it's really not even the same position. He's more athletic and quicker afoot than Hibbert (who is not as slow as some people keep making him out to be).
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The game against Wazoo yesterday he made some real nice defensive plays down the stretch and was called for a couple of real iffy calls. Sort of always was in the shadow of Durant and Oden and Spencer Hawes to some degree. To me would be an ideal NBA center in all facets for the game. I'd defeinitely take him over Hibbert.
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You say his offensive game is more complete than Hibberts. Could you explain more please. Also, Hibbert has shown the ability to understand an offense, contribute both in the high post and low post as well as anchor the defense with positioning as well as blocking. Are these things that Lopez could do as well.
Being a MN fan, I wonder if Lopez could be a very good compliment to Al Jefferson.
Being a MN fan, I wonder if Lopez could be a very good compliment to Al Jefferson.
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revprodeji wrote:You say his offensive game is more complete than Hibberts. Could you explain more please. Also, Hibbert has shown the ability to understand an offense, contribute both in the high post and low post as well as anchor the defense with positioning as well as blocking. Are these things that Lopez could do as well.
Being a MN fan, I wonder if Lopez could be a very good compliment to Al Jefferson.
I think 3 pointers from Hibbert aside, Lopez just looks more of a natural offensively. His post moves are quicker and more fluid than Hibberts which you're going to need in the NBA with guards swarming and defenses that are going to be able to react faster. Same goes for Lopez's perimeter game (he gets his shots up quicker and is better at moving without the ball). Whether because of role or nature, Lopez appears comfortable to take on the bulk of the offensive responsiblities, Hibbert does not. As far as for Al? I think either Hibbert or Lopez could compliment Big Al. I'd give the edge defensively to Hibbert but I think Lopez' on court personality probably is more along the lines of Jefferson.
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I think he's got the potential to be a spectacular defender. Not a spectacular shot blocker but definitely a spectacular defender, like somebody mentioned - Tim Duncanesque. Robin isn't the primary defender on that team, only the primary shot blocker. When I've watched, most of the important assignments have gone to Brook. He's a great position defender, and really does a great job of staying on his feet to contest everything at the rim. Lopez ' 6'11, 260 pound frame ain't going anywhere. He's already got great defensive instincts. Very few players his size have these types of instincts this early on.
Hibbert is more efficient offensively, but Lopez is in a much tough situation in terms of scoring. He plays with a 5 man who doesn't do anything offensively, and a 3 man who would be a 4 in most situations. He doesn't get the types of looks that Hibbert does.
He might not have Hibbert's size, but he's got at least as much upside.
Yesterday Lopez shot 4-15, but completely dominated that game. He suffocated Wash St on defense, got to the line at will, and made numerous beautiful passes down the stretch. He had at least half a dozen calls go against him over the last 10 minutes, so the numbers could have been much better.
This guy is playing himself into Top 5 pick range.
Hibbert is more efficient offensively, but Lopez is in a much tough situation in terms of scoring. He plays with a 5 man who doesn't do anything offensively, and a 3 man who would be a 4 in most situations. He doesn't get the types of looks that Hibbert does.
He might not have Hibbert's size, but he's got at least as much upside.
Yesterday Lopez shot 4-15, but completely dominated that game. He suffocated Wash St on defense, got to the line at will, and made numerous beautiful passes down the stretch. He had at least half a dozen calls go against him over the last 10 minutes, so the numbers could have been much better.
This guy is playing himself into Top 5 pick range.


