Thoughts on Kevin Love in the pros?
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I saw this guy play only briefly but have read quite a bit about him. Here is a guy hoIthink he could compare to how about Al Jefferson. Al is a great offensive player not the most athletic average defensively but very good. I think love ompares to him in alot of ways similiar height and weight also. Love will be a keeper in the league. I'm saying he is a 17ppg 10 boards and makes a few all star teams.
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I think he would be a great fit for the Suns. He could give them some of the toughness that they have lacked. I kindof see him as a Bill Laimbeer type of player for them. His strength on D and on the glass could compliment the athletes that they have. I could see him playing some his rookie year but mostly working on his body and improving his stroke from 3pt range. He could be a very valueable player for them once he adjusts to the nba.
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It looked to me like he has already lost some weight and seemed a little more toned. If he keeps losing weight I think he could end up like a better passing, less explosive Boozer. And lets face it Boozer is one of the worst defenders at his position and he still is on a team with a great record, so Love's poor defense will only hold him back so much.
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UGA Hayes wrote:It looked to me like he has already lost some weight and seemed a little more toned. If he keeps losing weight I think he could end up like a better passing, less explosive Boozer. And lets face it Boozer is one of the worst defenders at his position and he still is on a team with a great record, so Love's poor defense will only hold him back so much.
I think the Boozer comparison is pretty good. The best one i would think is Wes Unseld who was severely undersized to play the post but was an awesome player. Of course the game has changed but Love is an intriguing player.
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I watched the UCLA Vs Zona game last night. I was amazed at how chunky he is. It really holds him back getting up and down the court too as he laboured back more often than not.
He's very fundementally sound and obviously has a very good head on his shoulders. He looks as strong as an Ox and enjoys the physicality of the game.
I think that he'll be exposed in the NBA though and get burnt on D by "new age" quicker PF's.
He sort of reminds me of Ammo in that he looks awesome in college but I wonder if that will translate to the NBA?
He's very fundementally sound and obviously has a very good head on his shoulders. He looks as strong as an Ox and enjoys the physicality of the game.
I think that he'll be exposed in the NBA though and get burnt on D by "new age" quicker PF's.
He sort of reminds me of Ammo in that he looks awesome in college but I wonder if that will translate to the NBA?
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jumanji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I think the Boozer comparison is pretty good. The best one i would think is Wes Unseld who was severely undersized to play the post but was an awesome player. Of course the game has changed but Love is an intriguing player.
Wes Unseld is an interesting comparison. Yeah Unseld was someone that always played above what his physical build seem would limit him in. Excellent passer, tough player and someone that helps his team win without the fanfare of some of his contemporaries.
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Milsapp isnt in the same stratosphere as Love when it comes to basketball.
Yeah it's really rare to see someone play with the great senses that Love seems to play with. Almost like he has an extra eye and that he was, at least, mentally, made to play the game. His physical limitations is really going to make it interesting. If you were able to take what makes him a great player and put in into even an average body I think he'd be an NBA stud.
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Coming from a huge UCLA basketball fan, here are my views on Love.
His post game is fantastic. He's a player who won't think about what he will do with the ball before he gets the ball---he reacts to how a defender plays him, and makes the best decision on what to do. His basketball IQ is tremendous. He can shoot the rock from college three point range. His outlet passing and ability to box out are two of his greatest strengths.
However he does possess a few weaknesses that could hurt him in the NBA.
1) Weight - Love needs to shed some pounds before he can become as good of a NBA power forward as hyped.
2) Conditioning - This many have to do with his weight problems, but he seems to be the last guy down the offensive end of the court (even when not taking the ball out) a lot of the time. You can tell by the expression on his face if he is fatigued or not. If he can't improve over the season on his conditioning, then this can become a major problem when going to the NBA.
3) Defense - This is mostly referring to Love's help defense. His IQ may be great on the offensive end, but not so much when playing defense (with the exception of defensive rebounding/boxing out). He has a tendency to hedge off of screens and become lost about which man to pick up or where to go. He often looses sight of his man when playing help defense. He will not be able to guard a man who can take someone off the dribble. This is something that has got to be improved upon in order for Love to become a lottery pick.
4) Lateral Quickness - I guess this can go with conditioning, but I'd consider this its own weakness. He is very slow moving from left to right or right to left. There's no other way to put it. He needs to be quicker.
Hope my insight helped a little.
His post game is fantastic. He's a player who won't think about what he will do with the ball before he gets the ball---he reacts to how a defender plays him, and makes the best decision on what to do. His basketball IQ is tremendous. He can shoot the rock from college three point range. His outlet passing and ability to box out are two of his greatest strengths.
However he does possess a few weaknesses that could hurt him in the NBA.
1) Weight - Love needs to shed some pounds before he can become as good of a NBA power forward as hyped.
2) Conditioning - This many have to do with his weight problems, but he seems to be the last guy down the offensive end of the court (even when not taking the ball out) a lot of the time. You can tell by the expression on his face if he is fatigued or not. If he can't improve over the season on his conditioning, then this can become a major problem when going to the NBA.
3) Defense - This is mostly referring to Love's help defense. His IQ may be great on the offensive end, but not so much when playing defense (with the exception of defensive rebounding/boxing out). He has a tendency to hedge off of screens and become lost about which man to pick up or where to go. He often looses sight of his man when playing help defense. He will not be able to guard a man who can take someone off the dribble. This is something that has got to be improved upon in order for Love to become a lottery pick.
4) Lateral Quickness - I guess this can go with conditioning, but I'd consider this its own weakness. He is very slow moving from left to right or right to left. There's no other way to put it. He needs to be quicker.
Hope my insight helped a little.
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Almost all of those things could be solved by an NBA conditioning program. I would think by the end of his 2nd year in the NBA you won't even recognize his body. That is if he has a good work ethic
As far as his D is concerned, remember that he is a freshman. He has said he went to UCLA to learn how to defend under Howland.
Word is that he is 1 and done at UCLA. Are you guys sure that is the case? It would surprise me if he came out considering that he is likely mid 1st at best. It would make more sense if he worked on his body in college. He could be a sure lotto pick if he did.
As far as his D is concerned, remember that he is a freshman. He has said he went to UCLA to learn how to defend under Howland.
Word is that he is 1 and done at UCLA. Are you guys sure that is the case? It would surprise me if he came out considering that he is likely mid 1st at best. It would make more sense if he worked on his body in college. He could be a sure lotto pick if he did.
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guaves13 wrote:Word is that he is 1 and done at UCLA. Are you guys sure that is the case? It would surprise me if he came out considering that he is likely mid 1st at best. It would make more sense if he worked on his body in college. He could be a sure lotto pick if he did.
Eh I think he is guarranteed lotto this yeah if he maintains his production, extra weight or not.
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guaves13 wrote:Almost all of those things could be solved by an NBA conditioning program. I would think by the end of his 2nd year in the NBA you won't even recognize his body. That is if he has a good work ethic
As far as his D is concerned, remember that he is a freshman. He has said he went to UCLA to learn how to defend under Howland.
Word is that he is 1 and done at UCLA. Are you guys sure that is the case? It would surprise me if he came out considering that he is likely mid 1st at best. It would make more sense if he worked on his body in college. He could be a sure lotto pick if he did.
He is a one and done college player for sure. Even Howland has been quoted this past week as saying there's a very small chance Love returns next season.
His defense should be a problem, even though he is getting taught how to play it by one of the best. It has improved very little at best. If he's going to the NBA after his freshman season, than it does not matter whether he's a freshman or more experienced.
I think Love is a late lottery pick. Chicago would be a good fit.
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I love Kevin Love in college, in fact there might only be two or three guys I take ahead of him. But in the pros you have to remember that he will not be the beast on the block. He needs to transform the fat to muscle and the comparisons to Boozer are totally unfounded as Boozer was a rock and came out after his career ran course at Duke. Love would be really well suited to stay one more year in college not because it will make him that much higher a draft prospect, but spending a year with the strength and conditioning coaches will definitely help the second contract he gets in the pros. Because it is VERY rare when a guy comes into the league and then develops his body and such.
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