Lake Show @ DC - 12pm - 2/3/08

[Ruzious]

But why is Butler still in the game?

[miller31time]

Good lord, Eddie. Take Caron out of the F'n game.

[miller31time]

Holy crap, now Antawn checks in.

This is one of the few times playing Songaila doesn't matter. Put him in.

[badinage]

how can you not ooo and ah at Kobe? Look what he's doing to us.

Um, because he's despicable?

Smug, entitled, arrogant, narcissistic -- a preening a-hole jock who thinks basketball is the world.

[P'Oed]

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Um, because he's despicable?

Smug, entitled, arrogant, narcissistic -- a preening a-hole jock who thinks basketball is the world.

ok...well this is basketball and he's clearly the best player in the league. I don't know the guy personally, apparently everyone who hates him does, but even if he is the meanest, biggest a-hole on Earth he's an INCREDIBLE basketball player. I love watching the guy play (except today of course )

[fishercob]

Yeah how can you not root for Kobe

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/10 ... sera1.html

[P'Oed]

Yeah how can you not root for Kobe

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/10 ... sera1.html

like i said, if you want to feed into the Access Hollywood bull**** then go ahead. I watch the NBA for the basketball and I apologize if me appreciating the way Kobe plays the game is wrong.

[tkunit]

Left after the end of the third, and the only nice thing to that point was Pech having a really nice 3 point stroke. Oh and him talking about the wizz winning the super bowl.

In the first it was like no body was guarding Kobe he couldn't miss and all his fan boys where standing up trying to hug his nuts. Then the lakers just picked our defense apart and we had no rhythm on offensive.

[Griever24]

Good game today guy's .. Wizards defense definetly non-exisistent but i think the laker were just more hot today because some of those shots were well contested .. Caron was alright in his comeback and we all know he is still battling injuries .. we will meet again March 30th till then kudos !

P.S more of you should take P'Oed's point of view and just enjoy the guy's play .. instead of hating on him for lifestyle off the court which he keeps Hush most the time and for false accusations from a colorado girl who wanted to become famous and had 3 other guys Seamen found in her Drawers that took place after Bryant's supposed "rape" just a suggestion

good game though Haywood seemed off and Mason played nice with that spark of three's in the 2nd .. but it all came down to D

[wateryd]

the original question was "how can you not ooh and ahh" at kobe, not "how can you not root for him," definite difference between those two. and it's true, some of the stuff he does out there is just jaw-dropping. he's certainly the most gifted scorer in the league, if not necessarily the best overall player. some people can't separate the player from the person and that's fine. he gets lots of calls but i didn't really see any egregious ones. i think bosh got many more questionable calls in that first toronto game.

this was simply another game where the wizards were just outclassed. i didn't think the effort was that bad, but the expected lift from getting caron back wasn't there because he was clearly not himself. hopefully this isn't a case of coming back too soon. i really didn't see anything songaila did today to get people on his case even more. NY looked decent in garbage time, but until he learns to involve his teammates -- or at least become a more efficient scorer -- he's not going to serve the team well.

getting those wins over the poor/mediocre teams early on is sure looking good now because it's clear that with gilbert on the sidelines this team just doesn't have enough talent to compete with upper echelon teams.

[gowiz999]

Kobe is a great player but I am a Wizards fan. I do not root for players of other teams, period. I am not a sheep like the rest of those Kobe loving suckers at the Verizon Center this afternoon.

[dandridge 10]

Just got back from the game. Couple of observations:

1. I agree wholeheartedly with CCJ and the rest of the posters there was no frickin reason to play Caron so many minutes, as well as putting Jamison in at the end, when it was a lost cause. NO FRICKIN' REASON. If Caron complains of soreness and sits out the next game, I am going on the fire EJ bandwagon.

2. Wiz looked completely lazy today, especially on the defensive rotations. I don't have a problem with EJ not playing Haywood many minutes. He looked like crap. His hands of stone are really starting to come back.

3. I expected all the Lakers fan today and some of the oohs and ahhs over Kobe today were warranted. The thing that irks me is that the Kobe jock sniffers oohh and ahhh over every play by Kobe, even if it is just a simple cross-over or a simple dunk with no one on him. I recognize that he is a great player, but their lovefest for him is comical.

[Wiz99]

Wow. That was the worst $100 I've spent in a long time.

Just got back from the game, and I have five things about the experience that pissed me off royally.

1. All the gawdam Laker fans in the building. There was actually a "Let's go Lakers" chant when they they were up by 24 in the 4th, and every time Kobe touched the ball, it seemed like half the place cheered. I swear the lady next to me creamed her jeans when Kobe made a thunderous dunk in the 4th. ****.

2. But how can you blame Zard fans for not cheering when the team puts in a piss poor, lackluster effort like today.

3. WTF EJ?!?! How do you leave Songaila, Young and Mason in for almost 8 minutes while the lead goes from 9 to 22 in the 2nd quarter? To me, that's just unforgivably poor coaching. GET YOUR DAMN STARTERS ON THE COURT. Sheesh.

4. I was on the 100 level. Guess what? The food STILL sucks. Why is it I can go see a game at Camden Yards for $10 and get great food, but I pay 10x as much for the Wizards and the culinary options are "dress your dog" vs the cheeseburger that's been under the heat lamp since they cooked it 2 hrs before gametime? I'm going back up on the hill.

5. The white ladies in the dance squad cannot dance.

[clubbing_caveman]

Yah, I agree that we shouldnt have played CB that many minutes after just getting back from injury. That was uncalled for. I would have liked to see more of Blatche and Pech especially when the game was over.

What happened to our D? It seem like just yesterday I was singing praise to our D.

There were also some bad substitution patterns. Not sure what EJ was trying to do.

[miller31time]

Seems like when the team has a good game, EJ coaches a good game. When the team sucks, EJ's coaching follows suit.

Now, I'm not saying EJ's coaching is making our players play poorly, or that the fact our players playing poorly makes EJ's coaching look bad. I just think it's odd. When we're off, he's off, and vice versa.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The game is over.

Drama from fans with "fire EJ" to me wondering if EJ is on something won't do anybody any good.

Time to work on first understanding the problem(s). When you can state the problem then you can come up with ideas to solve it.

EJ is preferential to Songaila and he's the type of guy who plays individuals he has a feel for, regardless of the stats. He is loyal to veterans and will ride his stars for extended minutes. He's not of the opinion Blatche and Brendan are effective together, or that Jamison is as good at SF. When guys say they can play, EJ will play them extreme minutes as if they can't get hurt or as if they're 100%. EJ is great people but only so so as a tactician. That's my take on EJ.

But guess what? EJs not a player. His players are suddenly not getting it done.

INJURIES have broken the good continuity and the defensive mojo is gone. Caron, Antonio, and Daniels all appear to me to be pretty banged up. Outside of injuries, the roster changes that ensue are causing confusion on defense and offiense.

Strategy-wise, the inabilty to cover perimeter shooters and the tendency to be undersized gives up too many opponent threes and too few Wizard rebounds. The star mentality of give it to one guy on offense and watch him go ISO is stopping the ball on offense.

There are very few assists being generated on offense.

That's my overall assessment of the problem with the Wizards.

Too many injuries, lack of continuity especially on perimeter defense, and not enough sharing the ball.

SHARE THE BALL and GET BACK TO HELLACIOUS DEFENSE and BENCH ANYBODY NOT HEALTHY ENOUGH TO BE EFFECTIVE ON DEFENSE.

That's what needs to be done.

FIre EJ threads are needless drama. Songaila hate isn't solving anything. EG/EJ and I'd say just Jamison need to get together and have everybody COME TOGETHER and NOT START POINTING FINGERS.

Is the EJ/SONGAILA thing annoying. YES. But the problems are way bigger than that.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Seems like when the team has a good game, EJ coaches a good game. When the team sucks, EJ's coaching follows suit.

Now, I'm not saying EJ's coaching is making our players play poorly, or that the fact our players playing poorly makes EJ's coaching look bad. I just think it's odd. When we're off, he's off, and vice versa.

That's the problem right there, miller. They're both off at the same time.

EJ and the players run hot together and cold together.

[badinage]

1. All the gawdam Laker fans in the building. There was actually a "Let's go Lakers" chant when they they were up by 24 in the 4th, and every time Kobe touched the ball, it seemed like half the place cheered. I swear the lady next to me creamed her jeans when Kobe made a thunderous dunk in the 4th. ****.

Disgusting.

Appreciate what the cat does, fine. But this unabashed jock-sniffing? This unrepentant star-f u c k ing? This golly-gee yahoo-ing? Disgusting.

I mean, have some goddam pride.

And all those groupies and wanna-bes swarming the players' tunnel afterwards. Disgusting.

You see a celebrity, you don't slobber in his or her presence. That's unseemly, and indicative of your own lack of self-worth. No, you ignore the celebrity, sweeping past as if he or she did not exist (anyone remember the scene in Walker Percy's The Moviegoer?).

And at a ballgame? Jesus Christ. You do what fans in Boston or Philly or New York or Chicago do. You do the only right and proper thing. You boo that mother f u c k e r. That's what you do. You let loose a steady, all-game stream of invective. You boo and you boo and you boo, and you curse and you curse and you curse, until your cursing and booing begins to seem almost like a moral act.

And it is a moral act to say no to the star-making machine, to say no to the ceaseless celebrification of our increasingly dopey culture, to resist the forces of commodification, the forces of marketing, the forces of 24/7 hype.

[targetman]

Yeah how can you not root for Kobe

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/10 ... sera1.html

Can you post one about Caron's younger days, because I heard he was a real choirboy. Or is that a double standard?

[targetman]

1. All the gawdam Laker fans in the building. There was actually a "Let's go Lakers" chant when they they were up by 24 in the 4th, and every time Kobe touched the ball, it seemed like half the place cheered. I swear the lady next to me creamed her jeans when Kobe made a thunderous dunk in the 4th. ****.

Disgusting.

Appreciate what the cat does, fine. But this unabashed jock-sniffing? This unrepentant star-f u c k ing? This golly-gee yahoo-ing? Disgusting.

I mean, have some goddam pride.

And all those groupies and wanna-bes swarming the players' tunnel afterwards. Disgusting.

You see a celebrity, you don't slobber in his or her presence. That's unseemly, and indicative of your own lack of self-worth. No, you ignore the celebrity, sweeping past as if he or she did not exist (anyone remember the scene in Walker Percy's The Moviegoer?).

And at a ballgame? Jesus Christ. You do what fans in Boston or Philly or New York or Chicago do. You do the only right and proper thing. You boo that mother f u c k e r. That's what you do. You let loose a steady, all-game stream of invective. You boo and you boo and you boo, and you curse and you curse and you curse, until your cursing and booing begins to seem almost like a moral act.

And it is a moral act to say no to the star-making machine, to say no to the ceaseless celebrification of our increasingly dopey culture, to resist the forces of commodification, the forces of marketing, the forces of 24/7 hype.

lol, sez the guy that just spent 3 hours in front of the game rooting for his own all star selection.