Hire Larry Brown
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Hire Larry Brown
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Hire Larry Brown
Larry Brown wants to get back into coaching. The Bucks need to be turned around, in the worst kind of way.
I don't care if he'd leave in three years, this franchise's culture needs to change.
Hire Larry Brown.
I don't care if he'd leave in three years, this franchise's culture needs to change.
Hire Larry Brown.
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I've never said a bad thing about Kohl, with all my postings. EVER.
But he needs to fix this, and a few trades here and there can't change a losing culture, which we have created. Larry Brown loves taking losers to the top. Give him and Larry H. total control, 3 years, and 15MM. I would think that should be enough if he truly wants to get back into coaching.
But he needs to fix this, and a few trades here and there can't change a losing culture, which we have created. Larry Brown loves taking losers to the top. Give him and Larry H. total control, 3 years, and 15MM. I would think that should be enough if he truly wants to get back into coaching.
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Yes sir! I posted my thoughts on this in the 'Doug Collins' thread, and other places earlier in the season. But, let me reiterate that the guy does have a proven record of rebuilding teams. He has the authoritative presence that this team needs. Make him President of BBall Operations and Head Coach. Keep Harris as the guy who works the phones (both with Kohl and with other teams). Bye, bye Ron Walter and Krystkowiak. Pretty easy and relatively unrisky way to try and turn this franchise around.
Van Gundy, Carlisle, Silas, etc. are just B rate Larry Browns. Why not just go for the master?
Van Gundy, Carlisle, Silas, etc. are just B rate Larry Browns. Why not just go for the master?
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I agree. When George Karl was handed the reins the team took a major step forward. Ever sine it has been a team in disrepair.
This team needs a big time presence.
If Kohl wants to see this team be successful in his remaining lifetime, he must relinquish control to a Basktball guy. Is that guy Brown? Maybe, Maybe not, but the Walter / Harris duo is not working. Someone needs to lead this team and without vetran leadership on the floor, some needs to come from the sidelines or above.
This team needs a big time presence.
If Kohl wants to see this team be successful in his remaining lifetime, he must relinquish control to a Basktball guy. Is that guy Brown? Maybe, Maybe not, but the Walter / Harris duo is not working. Someone needs to lead this team and without vetran leadership on the floor, some needs to come from the sidelines or above.
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This is such a no brainer IMO, but would Larry come? I would think so because he loves losing teams. He needs the control however, so that would be the hardest for Kohl to give up. Keep Larry Harris, give Brown and Harris equal power with personnel decisions, and those to forge a partnership for our future.
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smooth 'lil balla wrote:This is such a no brainer IMO, but would Larry come? I would think so because he loves losing teams. He needs the control however, so that would be the hardest for Kohl to give up. Keep Larry Harris, give Brown and Harris equal power with personnel decisions, and those to forge a partnership for our future.
YES! Yes he would! Give him some nice money, the power that he needs to create his vision, and the respect that he deserves - and he most definately would come. He needs to end his career on a high note, and there is nowhere this franchise can go, but up.
He would have no problems with the media in Milwaukee...that's for sure!
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I don't even think the money would have to be THAT good. Just fair. Brown made a ton of money off of the Knicks' incompetence. The opportunity to be President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach would be more important. The Bucks could actually get him at a bargain.
I'm starting to think that Herb Kohl prefers mediocrity, as long as he has someone to blame for it. It's cheaper.
What is the guy saving his money for? How old is he again? Does he want to see a good team again, in his lifetime? If he does, he needs to do something about it, NOW, and quit wasting time.
I'm starting to think that Herb Kohl prefers mediocrity, as long as he has someone to blame for it. It's cheaper.
What is the guy saving his money for? How old is he again? Does he want to see a good team again, in his lifetime? If he does, he needs to do something about it, NOW, and quit wasting time.
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Rockmaninoff wrote:I don't even think the money would have to be THAT good. Just fair. Brown made a ton of money off of the Knicks' incompetence. The opportunity to be President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach would be more important. The Bucks could actually get him at a bargain.
I'm starting to think that Herb Kohl prefers mediocrity, as long as he has someone to blame for it. It's cheaper.
What is the guy saving his money for? How old is he again? Does he want to see a good team again, in his lifetime? If he does, he needs to do something about it, NOW, and quit wasting time.
That's the thing. No way do I believe Kohl wants mediocrity. The guy's been a winner is whole life. Built Kohl's from the ground up, and self made all his money. He's no different than Mark Cuban in that respect.
Now, he's older and comes from a different generation, so he may not understand that you need to play the part if you want to be the part. In other words, i'm hearing he's very cheap with his players. That needs to end. He pays salaries, but on NBA standards, from what I'm hearing (i can't rely for sure) everything else is 2nd class. That needs to change.
He also needs to break the ties with the cronies, if they do play as big a role as people claim they do.
This is his last shot. I guarantee he wants to be a winner. Go for it Herb! Change everything! You've got some good talent on this team, the culture is what's holding us back!
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Be careful what you wish for. Larry Brown is the coaching equivalent of trading for Gary Payton in 2003. This guy doesn't have the fire like he did and his physical ailments are real.
Plus he'd never work for Kohl. He'd take 8 million a year at least.
I'd offer him a three year deal at 24 million to take over everything though. See if he'd bite.
It would be a sideshow like trading for Zach or Vince Carter but it might work.
Plus he'd never work for Kohl. He'd take 8 million a year at least.
I'd offer him a three year deal at 24 million to take over everything though. See if he'd bite.
It would be a sideshow like trading for Zach or Vince Carter but it might work.
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Absolutely hire Larry Brown.
In a heartbeat.
Granted we don't have the most cohesive team, but I think are more talented than our record indicates.
I have been most disappointed with the results so far with Larry K. He says the right things and wants us to play the right way, but it is not working.
I would love to see what a real coach could do with this group.
In a heartbeat.
Granted we don't have the most cohesive team, but I think are more talented than our record indicates.
I have been most disappointed with the results so far with Larry K. He says the right things and wants us to play the right way, but it is not working.
I would love to see what a real coach could do with this group.
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All I can say, is this:
In 22 seasons as an NBA head coach, Brown has guided his teams to eight 50+ win seasons, seven divisional titles, three Conference Championships (Philadelphia in 2001, Detroit in 2004 and 2005) and one World Championship with the Pistons in 2004. He has led his team to the Playoffs in 17 of his 22 NBA seasons.
The eight different pro teams that Brown coached prior to coming to New York averaged an improvement of 8.9 wins over the season prior to his arrival. And each of those teams has followed a credo that has become synonymous with Brown: Playing the Right Way.
And, this:
"I am pretty confident I will [coach] in some capacity, whether it's an assistant coach, or involved in a franchise in some way, or possibly get back to [head] coaching," Brown said. "I don't feel really good about the way it ended [in New York].
"If I didn't look in the mirror, I feel pretty young and energetic," Brown added. "When I look in the mirror, I kind of think I'm 67."
Besides not wanting to see his legacy tarnished by that awful season in New York, Brown remains a gym rat.
"I love coaching, I love being in the gym, being around coaches," he said.
...I'd take Zack, if Brown was in charge. Ron Artest too, but I'd take him with any coach. I'd feel better about those kind of trades, with Brown rather than, Krystkowiak.
In 22 seasons as an NBA head coach, Brown has guided his teams to eight 50+ win seasons, seven divisional titles, three Conference Championships (Philadelphia in 2001, Detroit in 2004 and 2005) and one World Championship with the Pistons in 2004. He has led his team to the Playoffs in 17 of his 22 NBA seasons.
The eight different pro teams that Brown coached prior to coming to New York averaged an improvement of 8.9 wins over the season prior to his arrival. And each of those teams has followed a credo that has become synonymous with Brown: Playing the Right Way.
And, this:
"I am pretty confident I will [coach] in some capacity, whether it's an assistant coach, or involved in a franchise in some way, or possibly get back to [head] coaching," Brown said. "I don't feel really good about the way it ended [in New York].
"If I didn't look in the mirror, I feel pretty young and energetic," Brown added. "When I look in the mirror, I kind of think I'm 67."
Besides not wanting to see his legacy tarnished by that awful season in New York, Brown remains a gym rat.
"I love coaching, I love being in the gym, being around coaches," he said.
...I'd take Zack, if Brown was in charge. Ron Artest too, but I'd take him with any coach. I'd feel better about those kind of trades, with Brown rather than, Krystkowiak.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. Larry Brown is the coaching equivalent of trading for Gary Payton in 2003. This guy doesn't have the fire like he did and his physical ailments are real.
Plus he'd never work for Kohl. He'd take 8 million a year at least.
I'd offer him a three year deal at 24 million to take over everything though. See if he'd bite.
It would be a sideshow like trading for Zach or Vince Carter but it might work.
Come on, no way is he the equivalent of those in coaching. The guy has been a tremendous winner everywhere but in NY. Well, blame that one on Isiah Thomas.
Keep in mind, this is a 3 year rejuvination only. The culture here must change.