Hire Larry Brown

Epicurus · Post #21 » by **Epicurus** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 4:56 pm

I suspect age had as much to do with Brown's failure in NYC as anything else. As someone 5 years his junior, the game is too fast, the travel is too oppressive, the sports writers are too immature for someone 67 to take on a daily basis. Given time for reflection, I have no doubt that Brown is wiser than ever about the game, but reacting to instant impressions is the job of a coach. A 67 year old is going to have trouble doing that, not to mention the ever expanding egotism of players.

smooth 'lil balla · Post #22 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 4:57 pm

Epicurus wrote:"The eight different pro teams that Brown coached prior to coming to New York averaged an improvement of 8.9 wins over the season prior to his arrival."

Not good enough in Buckland, if I remember correctly.

...and what about the year after? Does he lose all those back?

Epicurus · Post #23 » by **Epicurus** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:22 pm

bigzy · Post #24 » by **bigzy** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:22 pm

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...and what about the year after? Does he lose all those back?[/quote

Only if he loses most of his starting line-up to injuries......

smooth 'lil balla · Post #25 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:37 pm

Let's not make this a hates Stotts thread. Hindsight says he's nowhere near as bad as everyone, including myself, made him out to be.

Regardless, Brown has been a success everywhere he's gone and could do wonders for this team.

Epicurus · Post #26 » by **Epicurus** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:45 pm

I think "has been" is the key term in your post (albeit with some creative reduction). Age matters. He is not the same person, as the one you recall. You got to believe me that things we do when in our prime are not what we can do once the prime has ended. Doesn't mean worse overall, just different. I think Brown would be excellent as president of the franchise (with a silent owner), just not on floor coaching (despite his predictable wish to regain the powers of his youth).

MajorDad · Post #27 » by **MajorDad** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:53 pm

I would echo Epi's sentiments. I'd love to have brown be the president of basketball operations and run the team. I would trust his judgement in all trades and player acquisitions. I would believe brown would also have the backing of the media to be able to shut up kohl's meddling cronies. if brown was hired, the meddling from people who know nothing would stop. Kohl and his cronies would have to stop and take on a role much like Steinbrenner as cheerleader for the team.

When I think of Larry Brown, I am reminded of Lombardi, Dean Smith, Walsh, Bobby Knight and Holgrem. but there is a significant difference. Walsh, Dean Smith, knight and holgrem all had assistants who followed in their footsteps and became great. I don't recall any Larry Brown assistants or brown disciples. i would love to have brown be the GM and one of his former assistants be the Bucks' new coach. but who out there claims that larry brown was his mentor and has become a successful coach in his own right?

Merwin · Post #28 » by **Merwin** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:31 pm

Brown hired Gregg Popovich to be his assistant in San Antonio. Byron Scott and George Karl are guys who have always claimed Brown to a big influence.

That's not a lot of names but good names.

LockDownD · Post #29 » by **LockDownD** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:02 pm

Brown bailed on his "dream job" in NYC, I think he could improve us in time, but don't think he would be here long enough to see it happen.

Rockmaninoff · Post #30 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:17 pm

LockDownD wrote:Brown bailed on his "dream job" in NYC, I think he could improve us in time, but don't think he would be here long enough to see it happen.

Actually, he was fired. The players were against him first, because they didn't want to play the 'right way'. Then the media began siding with the players. Then Isiah went with whatever would make him look good. In hindsight, who was probably right?

I'd want him to coach for 2-4 years, and have a possible successor on the bench with him during that time. Tony Brown perhaps, though Larry Brown would most likely want to bring in his own staff.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #31 » by **Buck You** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:25 pm

Well Larry Brown does have a history of turning around bad teams. But he completley failed with the Knicks so I really don't know. I think we have enough talent though that he could find a way to fix it up.

Newz · Post #32 » by **Newz** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:27 pm

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Well Larry Brown does have a history of turning around bad teams. But he completley failed with the Knicks so I really don't know. I think we have enough talent though that he could find a way to fix it up.

You could have a coaching staff of Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Red Red Auerbach... You still aren't going to win with that roster and Isiah Thomas as the GM.

Getting Larry Brown as our coach would be amazing. He would force the Bucks to go get defensive players and start to play defense... Hopefully he could start a new tradition in Milwaukee of defensive, effort filled basketball rather than the crap we have to watch these days.

Epicurus · Post #33 » by **Epicurus** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:28 pm

The Bucks have three players that are now playing above average. In fact, none of the other players have ever for a season played average or above, except for Bell in his first season and Simmons for one year before becoming a Buck. Where exactly is this talent you mention, and where has it been, whether with this team or with other teams?

El Duderino · Post #34 » by **El Duderino** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:39 pm

LukePliska wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You could have a coaching staff of Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Red Red Auerbach... You still aren't going to win with that roster and Isiah Thomas as the GM.

Getting Larry Brown as our coach would be amazing. He would force the Bucks to go get defensive players and start to play defense... Hopefully he could start a new tradition in Milwaukee of defensive, effort filled basketball rather than the crap we have to watch these days.

If Brown was given the full power to made trades/draft picks, i have no doubt that he'd change the roster greatly because the players on this team would drive Brown to a loony bin.

For me, the best thing about hiring Brown would be i THINK/HOPE that Kohl would respect Brown enough to not then constantly involve himself with player acquisitions.

Of course there would be no guarantee that Brown would make stellar choices in changing the roster, but i sure as hell would trust a HOF coach making the decisions than a senator and a lawyer.

Newz · Post #35 » by **Newz** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:40 pm

El Duderino wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If Brown was given the full power to made trades/draft picks, i have no doubt that he'd change the roster greatly because the players on this team would drive Brown to a loony bin.

For me, the best thing about hiring Brown would be i THINK/HOPE that Kohl would respect Brown enough to not then constantly involve himself with player acquisitions.

Of course there would be no guarantee that Brown would make stellar choices in changing the roster, but i sure as hell would trust a HOF coach making the decisions than a senator and a lawyer.

Our team would become much more veteran/defensive oriented, I agree.