VC or Crawford

SteveNets15 · Post #1 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:29 pm

Who is better for the NETS i need 2 know AND who is just better all around including heart

NetsForce · Post #2 » by **NetsForce** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:31 pm

Carter easily. Crawful is a chucker whose team will never sniff the playoffs as long as he's starting.

Kobay · Post #3 » by **Kobay** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:32 pm

Vince Carter is better player but Crawford might be good financially for the nets and he's pretty decent and clutch.

Kobay · Post #4 » by **Kobay** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:36 pm

VC for Qrich + crawford + david lee... would the nets do it?

SteveNets15 · Post #5 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:38 pm

I would hunt rod thorn AND kiki down if they didn't do this trade

risktaker91 · Post #6 » by **risktaker91** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:43 pm

VC >>>>> Crawford

I absolutely hate Crawford.

SteveNets15 · Post #7 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:46 pm

Put Crawford on the NETS with kidd and jefferson and you will absolutely love him

GJC · Post #8 » by **GJC** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:48 pm

Right now I have to say Crawford . VC's done, he got his contract and now its party time. When Magic Johnson destroys you on national television you know the end is near. Nets are screwed as long as Carter and his huge contract are in the swamp.

James_Dolan · Post #9 » by **James_Dolan** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:57 pm

Crawford is a terrible player.

Birth of the Cool · Post #10 » by **Birth of the Cool** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:00 pm

there is a players comparison board...

The OP is so transparent.

He adds "all around...including heart" in his criteria obviously trying to play to the VC has no heart angle then he uses two more posts to support Crawford when there wasn't even 10 replies on his thread yet....

anyways, I think Crawford gets too much hate in general. He's streaky & a bit selfish but he's got decent handles, clutch player and can be a good fit w/ certain teams.

However, a healthy VC is still better than Crawford. Crawford is a career 40% FG shooter. Career 34% from 3 pt. He's not as good a rebounder or playmaker as VC either.

even with the VC hate on full effect lately I still think most people would still take VC over Crawford

ChampionRed · Post #11 » by **ChampionRed** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:08 pm

WOW...VC is no question better than Crawford.

jeff1624 · Post #12 » by **jeff1624** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:14 pm

GJC wrote:Right now I have to say Crawford . VC's done, he got his contract and now its party time. When Magic Johnson destroys you on national television you know the end is near. Nets are screwed as long as Carter and his huge contract are in the swamp.

WOW...

legacyinthemakin89c · Post #13 » by **legacyinthemakin89c** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:17 pm

stevieboy wrote:Put Crawford on the NETS with kidd and jefferson and you will absolutely love him

Doubt it, he would just chuck more then he does in New York. Crawford is surrounded by players who hog the ball, put him in Jersey, and that just gives him free rain to be the most selfish player on his team night in and night out. And the problem with him being selfish is that he doesn't have the talent to back it up.

RapsVC15 · Post #14 » by **RapsVC15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:27 pm

Why are we comparing a borderline franchise guy to a career chucker?

SteveNets15 · Post #15 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:53 pm

Sorry i'm just done with carter if he played with half the heart JEFF plays with then crawford wouldn't compare but he doesn't its really sad

SteveNets15 · Post #16 » by **SteveNets15** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:55 pm

Carter is playing like hes Born of the Wack

kdot99 · Post #17 » by **kdot99** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:00 pm

GJC wrote:Right now I have to say Crawford . VC's done, he got his contract and now its party time. When Magic Johnson destroys you on national television you know the end is near. Nets are screwed as long as Carter and his huge contract are in the swamp.

What the hell? This has been one of VC's worse seasons (worse being his 5th, injury prone season) and he's still having a better season than Crawford. And no offense to Magic, but just because he's a great player doesn't mean he has great analysis. He's made some pretty weird comments on TNT before. Just look at MJ for example, he's the GOAT, but he's one of the lower tier of GM's (or whatever the hell he is) in the league.

Cliff Levingston · Post #18 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:06 pm

Vince Carter by miles, and that's even considering his poor season and contract extension.

NYKnick87 · Post #19 » by **NYKnick87** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:07 pm

omg please stop...

the knicks suck with crawford and would suck with carter.

but carter is the better player

Scalabrine · Post #20 » by **Scalabrine** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:15 pm

Crawford has scored double digits in the 4th quarter 13 times this season which I believe is third behind Kobe and James. Thats pretty impressive and shows how clutch he really is. However, being a Knicks fan I have watched Crawford over the past few year alot, hes a great scorer but very streaky, the best way to get a streaky shooter hot is by getting him a few easy buckets and free throws, with Crawford being the point guard and the main guy on the team right now he has trouble getting easy looks to get him hot. If you watched last nights game you will know what im talking about he was 0-6 or something for the game then the 4th quarter he penetrated and got an easy layup then he scored 13 points in like 4 minutes. As a number two or three option he would be great, especially in the 4th quarter when he can really take over.

Hes just too streaky to be a number one option like he is right now, and to a lesser extent Randolph, both are great scorers but when there shot is not falling it really is not falling, Randolph has an easier time getting easy hoops though because of his size and position.

If you read what I said above you would see that in my opinion Crawford could be a winner if he were put in the right position and he has a great attitude and work ethic. Teams are realizing Carter is like Sam Cassell, youll get a good year or two out of him when he first gets to your team but then he just fades and takes bad shots complains and is just sort of an a$$, your not gonna build a winning team with either of them. For that reason and the fact that Crawfords contract is half teh size of Vince's ill take Crawford.