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NYDN: Garnett/Cassell's agent working on buyout 

Post#1 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:07 pm

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They say Kevin Garnett is working to bring his former Minnesota teammate in, and that possibility is bound to be discussed over dinner tonight when Cassell enjoys a night off in Boston with his old friend before they play tomorrow.


"I could still play a little bit," he said. "I can get it done."


So would Cassell like to get a buyout from the Clippers, then move on to Boston as a free agent? Put it this way: With the Lakers getting Pau Gasol, he'd be crazy to want to stay in L.A.

"That's the only way anything can transpire," said Cassell, before icing the win with a 16-foot jumper in the final 30 seconds. "I don't want to get into all the details. I just play the game of basketball. But that's what (agent) David Falk is for. And he's working. He's working."


He pretty much summed it up, so I guess it is just a matter of time until he joins the C's. Probably 3 weeks from now. Sam is a lock to end up in Boston if he isn't traded within the next 16 days.
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Post#2 » by Clip34life » Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:40 pm

This is a lot of overblown speculation. No one is a "lock" for anything. You're reading into this what you want to read. I'm not saying the above mentioned isn't possible, it is, but it is far from a "lock." I think he gets traded for a late 1st or a second IMO.
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Post#3 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 6:57 pm

Clip34life wrote:I think he gets traded for a late 1st or a second IMO.


I don't want to sound offensive, but once Cassell starts working on a buyout (which he said he did), there can't be no more trade talks, as long as the Clippers respect him. I am really not sure, but to me it sounds like he knows where he'll be playing in 3 weeks from now.
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Post#4 » by wetsthebed » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:01 pm

I think you're reading too much this.
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Re: hmm 

Post#5 » by adiedanny » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:07 pm

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I don't want to sound offensive, but once Cassell starts working on a buyout (which he said he did), there can't be no more trade talks, as long as the Clippers respect him. I am really not sure, but to me it sounds like he knows where he'll be playing in 3 weeks from now.
Just give us a good strong explanation why would buy him out? He comes off our payroll at the end of the season which is more than half way finished. We have a very depleted team and especially at the guard position. He may go to the Celtics but you have to prepare to give something up in return. Why do you think we have not filled our 15th spot. The Clippers are preparing for a trade and most likely for a 1 for 2 or 2 for 3 player deal.
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Post#6 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:10 pm

All we can do is wait and see what happens. I don't mind if Sam leaves, no veteran player wants to play on a losing team. If Cassell leaves I'd rather that we get something out of it than just letting him go. We do still own Minnesota's 1st round pick; I just know that it's protected and the protection doesn't come off until 2010 or 2011.
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Post#7 » by JJ LoDuca » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:27 pm

It sounds like Sam truly wants to play with KG in Boston, and I don't know that the Clippers organization would disrespect him by forcing him to stay with us. I really don't want to see Sam go...but it seems inevitable. I just hope we can work out a trade and not settle for a buyout...I don't wanna let our swag walk for nothin'. But Sammy deserves better than what the LA Clippers can give him this season, even if it means letting Sam walk. If this is the case, we'll probably have to wait til SL14 can play again to let my man go. :sad:
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Post#8 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:40 pm

Clip34life wrote:You're reading into this what you want to read. I'm not saying the above mentioned isn't possible, it is, but it is far from a "lock." I think he gets traded for a late 1st or a second IMO.


I said it is a lock if he doesn't get traded.

Moreover, you underestimate the power of star players (KG) lobbying for other well respected players (Cassell). KG almost talked Reggie Miller out of retirement, as he was working out twice a day for two and a half weeks, and Garnett was often practicing with him at his house in Malibu.

Sam also hinted that his agent has initiated buyout talks (see quote in first post).

Also, I totally agree that the Clips have no reason to just let Sam walk. But this is exactly what the Grizz did with Stoudamire. Their owner first said that the only way they give up Damon is through a trade, and you see what eventually happened.

Sam is a veteran player who has 2 years to play, at most. Why would he want to keep losing if he can go to Boston? KG wants him there, and he is also very familiar with Ray Allen from their 4 years together in Milwaukee. I know the Clips want something back, but you just don't disrespect such a veteran by trading him to a team he doesn't want to play with (except Denver) or by keeping him and letting his contract expire. This will just get you a bad rep. If Sam really wants the buyout and is ready to leave money on the table, he will get what he wants.

I am not reading too much into this, you "non-believers" are just not reading into it, at all. :wink:
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Post#9 » by JJ LoDuca » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:06 pm

P2 wrote:Sam is a veteran player who has 2 years to play, at most. Why would he want to keep losing if he can go to Boston? KG wants him there, and he is also very familiar with Ray Allen from their 4 years together in Milwaukee. I know the Clips want something back, but you just don't disrespect such a veteran by trading him to a team he doesn't want to play with (except Denver) or by keeping him and letting his contract expire. This will just get you a bad rep. If Sam really wants the buyout and is ready to leave money on the table, he will get what he wants.


That's exactly what I said. Man, all yall Bostonians...trying to mooch everything you can off Clipper Nation, right? :nod:

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Post#10 » by remixer2017 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:44 pm

it has nothing to do with KG. sure, sam might want to go to the celtics but sam is one of those players who just doesnt bail on his team when the going gets rough. plus sam does have one more year after this on his contract. he is not getting bought out, it doesnt make any sense for us to do that. and the celtics have nothing we want, all the players we would want from you is in your rotation which you guys wont give up. u guys just need to find another option because cassell aint going anywhere. sterling is a stubborn man and he wants to win NOW, so i doubt gets bought out or traded. and cassell isnt asking to be traded or bought out so it aint gonna happen. sorry celts fans u guys just need keep winning with the team you got.
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Post#11 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:59 pm

MastaR1987 wrote:it has nothing to do with KG. sure, sam might want to go to the celtics but sam is one of those players who just doesnt bail on his team when the going gets rough. plus sam does have one more year after this on his contract. he is not getting bought out, it doesnt make any sense for us to do that. and the celtics have nothing we want, all the players we would want from you is in your rotation which you guys wont give up. u guys just need to find another option because cassell aint going anywhere. sterling is a stubborn man and he wants to win NOW, so i doubt gets bought out or traded. and cassell isnt asking to be traded or bought out so it aint gonna happen. sorry celts fans u guys just need keep winning with the team you got.


1. We're not talking about trades, because the C's won't acquire Sam through a deal.
2. It has to do with KG. Read the original post, it says KG is going to meet with Sam and talk about it. Sam also wouldn't bail on his team, it's just that Boston needs him right now, and he would appreciate to be here in Boston more than playing out the season with the Clips. You also underestimate friendships, as KG is probably his best friend in the NBA, and Ray Allen has played with him for 4 seasons. He knows what is best for him.
3. I don't know where you get your information from, but Sam is a free agent after this season.
4. Sterling must be delusional if he thinks you can win NOW.
5. Sam's agent has started working on Sam's situation (first post).

I see you just flat out ignore facts, like Sam's agent working on his situation, and KG talking him into Boston. You think he will stay with the Clippers, but it appears (based on facts) the Clippers will do something with him.

JJ LoDuca wrote:That's exactly what I said. Man, all yall Bostonians...trying to mooch everything you can off Clipper Nation, right? :nod:

If I were a betting woman (which, actually, I am), I'd bet Sam goes green, as I said in my previous post. Which, if Se
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Post#12 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:20 pm

P2 it doesn't matter what Cassell wants or his agent wants, he is under contract with the Clippers. If the Clippers can get expiring contracts and draft picks for him from say a team like Denver then they are not going to buy him out regardless or what Cassell or his agent want. It's just business.

You are jumping the gun big time. The only time this makes for an interesting discussion is after the trade deadline and if Cassell is still on the Clippers which I don't expect to happen because I think he gets traded.
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Post#13 » by mkwest » Tue Feb 5, 2008 9:21 pm

thanumba2clippersfan wrote:All we can do is wait and see what happens. I don't mind if Sam leaves, no veteran player wants to play on a losing team. If Cassell leaves I'd rather that we get something out of it than just letting him go.



These are my sentiments. Sam has made an impact here by getting us to the playoffs and best playoff performance in franchise history. He's got about a season and a half left in this league and I'd like to see him be on a competitive team. He won't be here next season and whether he's traded, expires or is bought out we will have to wait and see. Nothing is set in stone as of yet, so there's not much point getting worked up over speculation.
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Post#14 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:P2 it doesn't matter what Cassell wants or his agent wants, he is under contract with the Clippers. If the Clippers can get expiring contracts and draft picks for him from say a team like Denver then they are not going to buy him out regardless or what Cassell or his agent want. It's just business.

You are jumping the gun big time. The only time this makes for an interesting discussion is after the trade deadline and if Cassell is still on the Clippers which I don't expect to happen because I think he gets traded.


But this is exactly what I meant. If he isn't traded, then he will likely receive a buyout. And I have said this numerous times in this thread. All of this thread is based on the thought that Cassell won't get traded.

But still, if Cassell initiates buyout talks right now through his agent, I doubt the Clippers will just trade him to a place they can get the most out of. They will probably try to compromise with Sam, and base their decision on talks with Sam (partially).
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Post#15 » by ClipperDomination » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:17 pm

It would make no sense to buy out Cassell when we could get some proven talent for him, or some picks.

Hell, I'm even sure we could work out a deal with Boston and get something in return, even though they have way too many tradeable assets. :D
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Post#16 » by remixer2017 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:05 pm

my bad with sam's contract that he had an extra year, but anyway those buy-out accusations are all RUMORS. has sam said himself that he would leave the clippers THIS YEAR... NOOOOOO! he hasn't. there was also reports that dallas mavericks owner said he wants jason kidd, and now what is cuban saying," that was only a rumor." dont just take your information from a "rumor mill" on espn. the fact is sam is under contract with the clippers and there is no way we let him walk away from us in a buy-out. YOUR information is just rumors, so before you say all this that sam is a "lock" to join the celts, you need more than just a rumor mill post. but i like your effort ill give you that.
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Post#17 » by remixer2017 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:12 pm

also the article your getting all steamed up for is the new york daily news. they always mis-quote players or take what there saying the wrong way. the fact is one article means ****. i just had to add that. i will guarantee in the next couple of days sam will say that the new york reporters messed it all up and he does want to stay in LA. hahaha rumor mill post... i love it.
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Post#18 » by P2 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:23 pm

MastaR1987 wrote:has sam said himself that he would leave the clippers THIS YEAR... NOOOOOO! he hasn't.


That doesn't mean he wants to stay. You don't know what is going on inside the NBA (same with me), but I bet Sterling, Ainge and Sam probably all know by now where he will end up in 3 weeks. And as of right now (from what I have read), Sam indicates that his agent is finishing off the work he asked him to do. We'll see in 16 days.

MastaR1987 wrote:i will guarantee in the next couple of days sam will say that the new york reporters messed it all up and he does want to stay in LA. hahaha rumor mill post... i love it.


No, he will say that P2 messed it all up and should be eaten alive. :wink:
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Post#19 » by remixer2017 » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:36 pm

fair enough...
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Post#20 » by adiedanny » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:15 am

P2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



No, he will say that P2 messed it all up and should be eaten alive. :wink:
You have still failed to give a logical reason for buying Cassell out. I think in the back of Sam's mind he figures Dunleavy has one legg out the door and hopefully he could retire soon and slip into the Coaching spot. It is not like he does not have a ring, as a matter of fact he has two. You keep talking about him having his agent working on a buyout but I have not read anything close to that. What I have read is that his agent works out any details regarding trades, buyouts or contracts. An agent is constanly working for his client not only when he negotiates a contract but when a trade or buyout has been initiated.

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