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OT - Its shocking how much 

Post#1 » by rapsrawkz » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:09 am

Marc Jackson criticizes Wince Harder. This is the first Nets game I am watching all season (other than the one with Raps) and may b others have a better knowledge of it but I was shocked how much negatives Marc Jackson had to say about Wince. About his lack of passion, aggression, commitment. Few things of note:
1. Kobe hasn't taken too many shots trying to get his team involved. To that MJ says Wince probably is under the impression that its his defence that contained Kobe.

2. Wince gets called for his second foul..and he tries to get confirmation from MJ and he tells him str8 up how it was a foul (or something along those lines)

3. Wince tells MJ how he is gonna dunk on some1 and MJ says u havent done that in 5 games. I think the odds r against u.

Man..thats crazy. And he went on and on and on about how bad he has been all season. As much as I like Chuck and Leo, he never had the cojones to call Wince out while his time in toronto. Makes me respect MJ so much more for saying as it is!!
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Post#2 » by One of Shemps Kids » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:10 am

Or maybe MJ is just a dick?
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Post#3 » by thecc » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:13 am

LOL. I've watched the entire game, and Jackson has praised Carter far more than he's criticized him tonight. His entire criticism of Carter was saying that he doesn't posterize people much anymore. He's praised him about 10 times.
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Post#4 » by rapsrawkz » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:15 am

thecc wrote:LOL. I've watched the entire game, and Jackson has praised Carter far more than he's criticized him tonight. His entire criticism of Carter was saying that he doesn't posterize people much anymore. He's praised him about 10 times.


Oh no dont get me wrong. Of course he is gonna praise his good plays and as much as I hate to say it, wince has played pretty good not settling for jumpers..driving and taking it aggressively to the hoop. But a lot of times MJs praise came with a subtle shot at him. Thats when he is playing well...I wonder what he has to say when he is not lol
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Post#5 » by UnRealGM » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:17 am

really? shocking?
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Post#6 » by thecc » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:19 am

If this makes you feel better about us failing to beat them in the playoffs last year, then please continue...

For me, it does nothing to erase the pain. Playoffs are what matters to me, not regular season.
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Post#7 » by kavan » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:20 am

Vince is still a great player, even if Marc Jackson doesnt think so. He is the reason the Raptors didnt end up like the Griz. He may of fell off but he is still a great talent.
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Re: OT - Its shocking how much 

Post#8 » by rtcaino » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:24 am

rapsrawkz wrote:Marc Jackson criticizes Wince Harder. This is the first Nets game I am watching all season (other than the one with Raps) and may b others have a better knowledge of it but I was shocked how much negatives Marc Jackson had to say about Wince. About his lack of passion, aggression, commitment. Few things of note:
1. Kobe hasn't taken too many shots trying to get his team involved. To that MJ says Wince probably is under the impression that its his defence that contained Kobe.

2. Wince gets called for his second foul..and he tries to get confirmation from MJ and he tells him str8 up how it was a foul (or something along those lines)

3. Wince tells MJ how he is gonna dunk on some1 and MJ says u havent done that in 5 games. I think the odds r against u.

Man..thats crazy. And he went on and on and on about how bad he has been all season. As much as I like Chuck and Leo, he never had the cojones to call Wince out while his time in toronto. Makes me respect MJ so much more for saying as it is!!



I saw that part. They did seem very critical of him, and Vince looked like he was going to cry.

Then in the commercial break, Carter went to MJ, and asked whether it was a foul. Apparently he was upset when MJ told him that the foul could have gone either way.


I only watch a few minutes, but in that point they were very down on Carter. But last play I saw was that nice pass he made.
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Post#9 » by risktaker91 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:30 am

This is why I watch a lot of Nets games. MJ is amazing!
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Post#10 » by Danchan » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:33 am

wait... MarK jackson or Marc jackson. big difference.
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Post#11 » by bychai » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:39 am

That's funny... cuz when we say stuff like this, we're just labeled as typical Raptor's fans.
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Post#12 » by Calderon Crew » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:00 am

Danchan wrote:wait... MarK jackson or Marc jackson. big difference.

It should probably be Mark Jackson, the ex-Raptor.

Marc Jackson is a scrub.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/marc_jackson/index.html
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Post#13 » by peralta » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:53 am

rapsrawkz wrote:Marc Jackson criticizes Wince Harder. This is the first Nets game I am watching all season (other than the one with Raps) and may b others have a better knowledge of it but I was shocked how much negatives Marc Jackson had to say about Wince. About his lack of passion, aggression, commitment. Few things of note:
1. Kobe hasn't taken too many shots trying to get his team involved. To that MJ says Wince probably is under the impression that its his defence that contained Kobe.

2. Wince gets called for his second foul..and he tries to get confirmation from MJ and he tells him str8 up how it was a foul (or something along those lines)

3. Wince tells MJ how he is gonna dunk on some1 and MJ says u havent done that in 5 games. I think the odds r against u.

Man..thats crazy. And he went on and on and on about how bad he has been all season. As much as I like Chuck and Leo, he never had the cojones to call Wince out while his time in toronto. Makes me respect MJ so much more for saying as it is!!



well he did have a viscious dunk in that game...so he was right about wanting to dunk on someone, a lil flash of the old vince in that split second..but the rest of the game was doodoo
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Post#14 » by Franchise_411 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:57 am

I lost all respect for Mark Jackson's basketball opinion when he made the claim on an ABC broadcast that "Kobe Bryant is a better player and more talented than Michael Jordan" ... But that being said, he is 100% correct about Vince ...
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Post#15 » by Don't_Reach » Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:27 am

I remember when Marc Jackson did 1 of the playoff games last season against the Raptors...And there was a play where J.Kidd did somethin' to Calderon and he dropped a slapshot along the lines off...

"Jason Kidd just told Calderon...'Your new to this...i'm used to this"
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