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Post#1 » by Mad Balla 15 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:20 pm

Big if here, but IF the Suns somehow win the championship with Shaq how does that affect his legacy? That will mean he has gone to the finals with each of the 4 teams he has been on and has won a title with 3 of them. I know this isn't the same Shaq as before but would this make his legacy better, or keep it the same? It would seem that whatever team has traded for him has benefitted with at least one ring pending on whether the Suns win it or not. What do you guys think?
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Post#2 » by gswhoops » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:26 pm

If Shaq can win a 'ship in Phoenix, he will cement his legacy as perhaps the greatest C in the history of the league.

5 championships with 3 different teams, including one that was infamous for folding like a lawn chair in the playoffs, plus career stats of 25/11/3/2.5 blocks per game...hard to argue against that.
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Post#3 » by mudyez » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:48 pm

for a second I thought: wow, did a player ever win 3 chips with 3 different teams?

then BOB came in an slapped me in the pace
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Post#4 » by magicfan4life05 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:50 pm

that's not bob!
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Post#5 » by tclg » Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:27 pm

He would probably move up in the Goat discussions but not by much
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Post#6 » by NetsForce » Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:30 pm

It won't affect his legacy much he'll always be remembered as one of the greatest big men to play the game (who needed a great wing player to help lead him to a championship).
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Post#7 » by tkb » Wed Feb 6, 2008 6:22 pm

gswhoops wrote:If Shaq can win a 'ship in Phoenix, he will cement his legacy as perhaps the greatest C in the history of the league.

5 championships with 3 different teams, including one that was infamous for folding like a lawn chair in the playoffs, plus career stats of 25/11/3/2.5 blocks per game...hard to argue against that.


Not really when you look at the other candidates. Shaq if he won a championship with Phx would still not be a top 3 center ever (having said that he is, and has been for a while a top 5 center in history).
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Post#8 » by kooldude » Wed Feb 6, 2008 6:38 pm

^what if Shaq won 2 titles with Phx and wins 2 Finals MVP or just 1 Finals MVP
Warspite wrote:I still would take Mitch (Richmond) over just about any SG playing today. His peak is better than 2011 Kobe and with 90s rules hes better than Wade.


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Post#9 » by tkb » Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:58 pm

He still faces some sick competition in Kareem, Wilt and Bill Russell, and I'd probably still rate them all over him.

He'd probably be rated over Hakeem tho for the 4th spot, which is debatable right now.
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Post#10 » by kooldude » Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:05 pm

But doesn't Shaq's statistical advantage and rings, win over Hareem atm?
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Post#11 » by Patterns » Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:06 pm

tkb wrote:He still faces some sick competition in Kareem, Wilt and Bill Russell, and I'd probably still rate them all over him.

He'd probably be rated over Hakeem tho for the 4th spot, which is debatable right now.

It's not even a question that Shaq is better than Hakeem and I am a Shaq hater.
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Post#12 » by mudyez » Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:10 pm

magicfan4life05 wrote:that's not bob!


you can ask my little brother and he will tell you, that its BOB!

big-gut-bob

then...I have to admit, that I dont even have a little brother :(
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Post#13 » by tkb » Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:24 pm

Patterns wrote:It's not even a question that Shaq is better than Hakeem and I am a Shaq hater.


If you completely ignore defense, sure.
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Post#14 » by WesWesley » Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:50 pm

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If you completely ignore defense, sure.


Shaq wasn't exactly a stiff on defense. In his prime he was a dominant two way player.

you can make the argument that he has had a better more celebrated career than Akeem.
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Re: Shaq's Legacy 

Post#15 » by exkonvict » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:47 pm

Mad Balla 15 wrote:Big if here, but IF the Suns somehow win the championship with Shaq how does that affect his legacy? That will mean he has gone to the finals with each of the 4 teams he has been on and has won a title with 3 of them. I know this isn't the same Shaq as before but would this make his legacy better, or keep it the same? It would seem that whatever team has traded for him has benefitted with at least one ring pending on whether the Suns win it or not. What do you guys think?


He would be the GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME!!! G.O.A.T.!!!
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Post#16 » by tkb » Thu Feb 7, 2008 12:51 am

Wes_Wesley wrote:Shaq wasn't exactly a stiff on defense. In his prime he was a dominant two way player.

you can make the argument that he has had a better more celebrated career than Akeem.


Sure, but Hakeem was far from a stiff on offense, and while Shaq because of his size was decent on D (not good on pick and roll d btw) Hakeem was 2 leagues better. Shaq was better on O, but Hakeem was a lot better on D.
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Post#17 » by _BBIB_ » Thu Feb 7, 2008 7:57 am

Where are those numbers someone posted to show Shaq's inferior competition during his title runs?
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Post#18 » by ThaRegul8r » Fri Feb 8, 2008 4:42 am

_BBIB_ wrote:Where are those numbers someone posted to show Shaq's inferior competition during his title runs?


Right here.
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Post#19 » by Phil Jackson » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:46 am

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