Trade Iguodala

[dbodner]

I'm curious as to why you think he's not progressing.

He's averaging the same amount of points as he did after the trade last year, while doing it more efficiently, and with less turnovers.

[SendEm]

I'm curious as to why you think he's not progressing.

He's averaging the same amount of points as he did after the trade last year, while doing it more efficiently, and with less turnovers.

Where are his stats after the trade located?

You used the word "SAME" in your post. That word isn't Synonymous with "progress"...

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Maybe my expectations are high, but sometimes he seems to disappear on the court.

He's wants the max deal, and maybe that's a factor, but I expected him to consistantly be the best player on this team.

[Johnny Broad-Street]

He does disappear. He's a good second option....a great third option. Just because he was "the other guy" when Iverson left, he became the future. I think he was a very nice pick who could work out well if he will sign a reasonable contract reflective of his value to the team. If he wants too much let him walk and move on. And if another team is in love with him, and wants to give us something really nice in return...PULL THE TRIGGER

[SendEm]

He does disappear. He's a good second option....a great third option. Just because he was "the other guy" when Iverson left, he became the future. I think he was a very nice pick who could work out well if he will sign a reasonable contract reflective of his value to the team. If he wants too much let him walk and move on. And if another team is in love with him, and wants to give us something really nice in return...PULL THE TRIGGER

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What are the S+T rules for a RFA?

If another team signs him, can the Sixers put a deal together to send him to that team?

[ponder719]

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Where are his stats after the trade located?

You used the word "SAME" in your post. That word isn't Synonymous with "progress"...

SendEm, you're intentionally leaving out an important part of the original statement. When you maintain equal production in positive statistics, while reducing negative statistics, you have improved. If a player averages 8-for-19 shooting for a season, and the following season averages 8-for-14 shooting, that is an improvement, based on the reduction of shots not made.

[SendEm]

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SendEm, you're intentionally leaving out an important part of the original statement. When you maintain equal production in positive statistics, while reducing negative statistics, you have improved. If a player averages 8-for-19 shooting for a season, and the following season averages 8-for-14 shooting, that is an improvement, based on the reduction of shots not made.

Do you know where Iggy's post trade stats are from last season? I like to see facts...

[ponder719]

Do you know where Iggy's post trade stats are from last season? I like to see facts...

No, I don't, and I don't have the time to find them. You seem to be a bright guy. Scour the internet for a minute or two. I'm sure you can turn something up.

That or ask bods. He's the one who made the statement. I just pointed out that you decided to ignore the part that didn't fit in with your pre-existing opinion of Iguodala.

[dbodner]

Where are his stats after the trade located?

You used the word "SAME" in your post. That word isn't Synonymous with "progress"...

I don't have an exact "since the day of the trade" #, but his post all-star #'s last year were:
19.4 ppg on 43.9% shooting with 3.9 turnovers per game.
This year:
19.3 ppg on 44.6% shooting with 2.9 turnovers per game.

His january stats of last year (18.2 ppg, 43% shooting, 3.5 turnovers) present a similar picture, and actually bring down his ppg and shooting #'s. So they're probably a little worse, so we'll go with the post all-star #'s just to help Andre even more.

Specifically, after a rough November (17.4 ppg, 41% fg, 4.1 turnovers), he's been significantly better in December (19.9 ppg, 45.8% shooting, 2.3 turnovers) and January (20.5 ppg, 46.2% shooting, 2.4 turnovers) than he was at any point last year. Since November he's basically been playing at a 20.5 ppg, 46% shooting, 2.4 turnovers per game level.

When you substantially improve your fg% and turnovers while maintaining your scoring average (and picking it up in the last two months), that's progress. If you were expecting more improvement, you were unrealistic in your expectations. That's your fault, not Andre's.

[SendEm]

Since last season Iggy has only increased statistically in scoring by 1 point and has reduced his turnovers by 1. Statistically in every other category he hasn't improved...Unless you want to talk about the .20 personal fouls per game that he hasn't been committing. He's the same exact player that he was last season...He has hit his ceiling as a player cast in the role of a focal point.

He needs to be reduced down to his natural role of a 3rd-4th banana supporting cast player, IMMEDIATELY. Iggy is somewhere between an Eddie Jones and Aaron Mckie type player in reality...

[Sixercise]

He needs to be reduced down to his natural role of a 3rd-4th banana supporting cast player, IMMEDIATELY. Iggy is somewhere between an Eddie Jones and Aaron Mckie type player in reality...

And who's going to be the #1 then? Andre Miller? Louis Williams? C'mon now, you're asking for something that's not going to happen.


Face it, right now Iggy is OUR BEST PLAYER. Until something better comes along for the Sixers, Iggy is all we got as our #1. Forget the fact that he disappears in some games. C'mon now.

[tk76]

Thanks for the stats Dabods- it helps show progress that doesn't neccessarily jump out at you as a casual fan. His assists are down, but we also have less shooters for him to pass to.

Iguodala has stated that he is probably thinking too much out there in terms of trying to figure out how best to attack the extra defensive attention he now draws (since the AI trade.) He seems to be attacking more recently, and making less circus passes. he also is learning to be a decent finisher on his drives- a skill he lacked when he entered the league. he even has cut down on his whining recently.

To some extent the decreased TO's are a result of shooting more (too many) jumpers, but overall I still see Iguodala as continuing to grow as a player, and he should be a cornerstone of this team moving forward. He should only be even more valuable as we add more talent and as our Young players devlop into more potent offensive weapons.

[SendEm]

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And who's going to be the #1 then? Andre Miller? Louis Williams? C'mon now, you're asking for something that's not going to happen.


Face it, right now Iggy is OUR BEST PLAYER. Until something better comes along for the Sixers, Iggy is all we got as our #1. Forget the fact that he disappears in some games. C'mon now.

A #3-4 is easily replaceable.

[Sixercise]

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A #2-3 is not that replaceable.

Fixed.

[IggyTheBEaST]

SendEm, Just face it already, Igoudala is a legit 2nd option, 3rd at worst, we arnt in a position to be giving those types of players away, if a team knocks are socks off, sure, he isnt untouchable, but I see most teams lowballing us for him at this point.

[ITK9]

ok..i had enough of that guy.i don't understand why he is not banned but it's not my bussines.he is a shame for this sixers board

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